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Doom should have Vector Manipulation I guess.
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MASHLE: Magic and Muscles Discussion Thread
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Its not vector manipulation? Some sort of reflection magic, that's applied to himself. He's able to reflect his own body to attack from two angles.
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He can change the position of his attack. This is basically the vector manipulation definition
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Pretty sure the chapter title revealed what his magic is, mirror magic. And it's not like he's only changing the position of his attacks, he's appearing in two places at once. Even Doom says "mirrage". Unless this is also vector manipulation?
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Doom's magic can have several different characteristics, and with that, several powers
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Yeah I guess that's how it has to be, theres no mirror based powers on the wiki
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Can’t be simple afterimages?
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Have you read the chapter? Doom is literally creating a "clone" of his attacks and reversing the position of the movements
Cute
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Yeah I have. He calls it a mirage, which can simply be an afterimage.
Changing the direction of an attack can be done with strength alone. Swinging in one direction, using strength alone to change to another direction.
Hes strong enough to swing his sword using the tip of his fingers, this isn’t imposing
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Isnt a afterimage. mash is defending against "both" Doom at the same time
He is not using strenght, he is using magic to do these things. Not even Mash understood what had happened at first
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The fact he's saying "Mirage is indicative of him using spells. It's not afterimages, Doom is still physical during usage of his magic.
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i admit I skimmed through the chapter so I may have missed some details, but there’s almost no proof of vector manipulation, if anything he gets cloning. And suddenly changing the direction of his sword could easily be an application of having vast strength.
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or just attack reflection…
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It's literally just him mirroring his attack to make it attack in the opposite direction as well.
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Ima wank and put it as subjective reality 
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Can someone send the scan of this shit?
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There more shit like Doom creating a copy of himself to attack. Probably with future chapters new powers may show up
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Okay so this ability is skill based so it won’t exactly count as a power. But if we must index it would be vector manipulation imo.
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It's not skill based, it's his whole magic. Mirror Magic. MM.
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Theres another panel where he reflect himself, basically making two of him that are using the same attack.
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You know what, sending the chapter is better
www.viz.com
VIZ: Read Mashle: Magic and Muscles, Chapter 138 Manga - Official Shonen Jump From Japan
Can muscles crush magic?!
www.viz.com
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In the last panel that king sent he states he is forced to use his magic. I’m referring to earlier panels of him just swinging his sword.
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Yeah, in both panels hes using his magic. For some reason, the chapter didnt even make it a big moment, huh.
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Oh after reading the chapter this just looks like duplication with mirage and teleportation with that change of direction thing
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Very weak duplication and teleportation
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It is not weak, it is just an extremely specific way of using power and its vector manipulation
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I’m not sure I get it. Won’t that logic grant every magic power verse or energy systems in general NPI?
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If the verse has a proof that magic naturally is something non-physical and a character touch that essence, I see no problem
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Fair enough I guess
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I'm still on the fence about the soul splitting pain statement. It was cuanged to something else in the volume release that doesn't involve the word soul.
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Fck I'm going to saying this.Ima wank and put it as subjective reality
WrongIdea21
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Considering Doom saying IZ is the last man That made him bleeding and he also said that He Never feel such Magical energy that Ryoh's Thirds unleashed then it can be mean that IZ never Unleashed his full power against Doom.
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Or IZ is just weak in raw power
WrongIdea21
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He definitely can't hold his own magic power.Or IZ is just weak in raw power
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