Marvel: Invisible Woman Rework

[The_Impress]

All info gathered from @Stormy01's RT on ComicVine, all these scans are sourced, just it's taking a while to list them on thread due to sheer number of them..

General​

• Her forcefields should be variable, it's reliant on her willpower and concentration at the time, alongside the fact she can **** with their properties - Fantastic Four Vol 3 9, Fantastic Four Vol 1 400
• Her file is to be split into 2 keys, Classic and Modern, because she picks up many skills and gains multiple amps along the years. Issue of distinction chosen is Fantastic Four Vol 1 284, since that's the issue of her rebranding to Invisible Woman, and the era where writers really began ramping up her capabilities.

Classic​

Powers and Abilities

• Invisibility: Can make herself and others invisible, even partially. - Fantastic Four Vol 1 22, Fantastic Four Annual Vol 1 1
• Enhanced Senses: Can see invisible beings due to being able to detect the ever present cosmic rays alongside light - Fantastic Four Vol 3 63
• Extrasensory Perception: Can sense forcefields - Fantastic Four Vol 1 331
• Martial Arts: Judo practitioner - Fantastic Four Vol 1 17
• Power Nullification: Can make invisible energies visible, disable forcefields and intangible beings tangible - Fantastic Four Vol 1 242,, Fantastic Four Annual Vol 1 12, Fantastic Four Vol 1 29
• Forcefield Creation: Around herself and others, and manipulate the tension, size, shape, number and permeability of the forcefield. Can create airtight bubbles to suffocate opponents (this btw implies forcefields are likely variable in nature)- Fantastic Four Vol 1 23
• Shockwave Creation: As shown here
• Danmaku: As shown here
• Instinctive Reactions: Instinctively throws down a forcefield many, many times
• Pseudo-Telekinesis: Can lift objects with her forcefields and remotely operate machinery with broken controls
• Pseudoflight: Using forcefields
• Creation: Can create forcefield constructs like bridges, parachutes and keys
• Resistances: Most of the forcefield ones are based on their inherent property, so I'm ignoring era there.
  • Radiation Manipulation: Using her forcefields
  • Telekinesis: Using her forcefields
  • Matter Manipulation: Her forcefields cannot be affected by Molecule Manand can block out Sersi
  • Mind Manipulation: Blocked out the mind warping of Talisman
  • Temperature Manipulation: Can block out fireblasts from Volcana (She-Hulk's claim is hyperbolic, Volcana is NOWHERE as powerful)
  • Fire Manipulation: Her forcefields cannot catch fire
  • Corrosion Inducement: Her forcefield can block out corrosive gases
  • Darkness Manipulation: Can block darkforce blasts
  • Light Manipulation: Can block out light
  • Telepathy: Blocked out Psycho-Man from reading her thoughts
  • Magic: Can seal spells
  • Sound: Can block soundwaves, even ultrasonics

Stats

• Attack Potency: 10-A, up to at least High 6-C with forcefields (Severely harms She-Hulk)
• Lifting Strength: Athlete Class, Class T with forcefields (Can restrain the Thing)
• Durability: 10-A, up to 3-C with forcefields (Blocks attacks from Impossible Man and Gladiator)
• Range: Standard melee range, tens of kilometers with Invisibility (Could make energies across all of Manhattan visible), hundreds of meters with forcefields (Created a forcefield around a city block)

Modern​

Powers and Abilities

• Same as before
• Enhanced Invisibility: Undetectable through every radiation frequency, and radar and its equivalent. Can make herself and others gradually invisible layer-by-layer, to give the illusion of disintegration
• Enhanced Power Nullification: Can nullify other people's invisibility
• Enhanced Creation: Can create functional jets, prosthetic limbs, needles, surgical instruments, armor, functional rafts and likely many other objects
• Enhanced Martial Arts: Knows kickboxing, and trained in combat by Iron Fist
• Minor Biological Manipulation: Can blind others by making their optical nerves invisible, suffocate them by blocking their lungs, cause embolismand thrombosis, and make them silent
• Light Manipulation: Can change the colors of things, including her own self, albeit with heavy focus
• BFR: As shown here
• Durability Negation and Non-Physical Interaction: Can open portals within areas of solid force, bypassing their durability. Does so to an electromagnetic barrier.
• Deconstruction: Application of her telekinesis
• Limited Healing: Can fix fractures using forcefields
• Intangible Attacks: Can open forcefields through other people's own defenses
• Weapon Creation: Can create gauntlets, swords and bo-staffs

Stats

• Attack Potency: 9-A (Can fight against Iron Fist, who was forced to act on instincts by her attacks), up to at least High 6-C with forcefields (Oneshot Namor)
• Durability: 9-A, up to 2-A at peak, with forcefields (Managed to momentarily hold off Mad Celestials)
• Range: Standard Melee range, planetary with invisibility and forcefields

 

[The_Impress]

@Antvasima @Eficiente @Qawsedf234 @Confluctor @SamanPatou @LordTracer @Yobo_Blue @MarvelFanatic119 @Hellbeast input

 

[The_Impress]

also rq addition: She restrains an enraged Hulk for a decent while, modern day, so she should have Stellar LS for the new key

 

[Confluctor]

The first scan of power null looks kinda Sus to me due to power application. She is basically doing that through light manip - since that's one of her primary powers.


Rest looks fine at a glance tho. Agreed

 

[The_Impress]

The first scan of power null looks kinda Sus to me due to power application. She is basically doing that through light manip - since that's one of her primary powers.

I mean not everyone with light manip can pull that off, so

 

[Confluctor]

Definitely not, but hers is slightly different case.

 

[The_Impress]

Yeah, so it's worth listing separate

 

[XXKINGXX69]

Heat of a small star might just be like the surface of it, which isnt that hot, its only like 5500 degrees celsius

Agree with the rest

 

[The_Impress]

Heat of a small star might just be like the surface of it, which isnt that hot, its only like 5500 degrees celsius

Still hot enough to melt most shit contacting it, so gets listed :V

 

[rawXDglomp]

I don't see x-ray vision. Am I missing it? She's using it in the fracture heal pic.

 

[The_Impress]

I don't see x-ray vision. Am I missing it? She's using it in the fracture heal pic.

Nah she made the arm invisible, didn't use X-Ray vision

 

[XXKINGXX69]

Still hot enough to melt most shit contacting it, so gets listed :V

Vaporisation of a human instantly is probably hotter than that, so i don't think you should list it as hyperbole

 

[The_Impress]

Not planning to anyways

 

[MarvelFanatic119]

"Can make herself and others gradually invisible layer-by-layer, to give the illusion of disintegration"

For this one, I don't see where it says on the panel this is what happened. Is there another panel you can show us that presents this?

Other than that, everything looks fine.

 

[The_Impress]

"Can make herself and others gradually invisible layer-by-layer, to give the illusion of disintegration"

For this one, I don't see where it says on the panel this is what happened. Is there another panel you can show us that presents this?

It's in the next issue, ye

 

[MarvelFanatic119]

It's in the next issue, ye

Yeah, you should add this also to the scan I mentioned above.

So I have no problems with anything here now.

 

[XXKINGXX69]

It's in the next issue, ye

How does she make herself and others invisible? Light manipulation? Matter manipulation or even transmutation? Or is it through unknown means?

 

[Antvasima]

Most of this seems fine, but the distortion of how light reflects from objects to change their colours is definitely not shapeshifting, or even transformation.

Also, the 1997 Heroes Reborn version of the Hulk did not have anywhere near Stellar lifting strength as far as I am aware.

 

[LordTracer]

Power Nullification: Can make invisible energies visible, disable forcefields and intangible beings tangible

This last link just goes to the respect thread, not a specific scan.

Creation: Can create forcefield constructs like bridges, parachutes and keys

You linked the same scans here.

up to at least High 6-C with forcefields (Severely harms She-Hulk)

If possible, could you post the aftermath of this?

Light Manipulation and limited Shapeshifting: Can change the colors of things, including her own self, albeit with heavy focus

That’s just light manip and not shapeshifting.

 

[The_Impress]

This last link just goes to the respect thread, not a specific scan.

You linked the same scans here.

Fixed

If possible, could you post the aftermath of this?

Sure, it's Fantastic Four 280

 

[The_Impress]

Also, the 1997 Heroes Reborn version of the Hulk did not have anywhere near Stellar lifting strength as far as I am aware.

I don't think Heroes Reborn characters had different stats, at least not the characters who were originally outside the pocket dimension

 

[LordTracer]

Sure, it's Fantastic Four 280

Thanks. If you add this to the previous scan, I think everything’s good to go.

 

[The_Impress]

oh if anyone's available actually, can y'all turn these into imgur links? Comicvine links are suscepible to break alot

 

[Confluctor]

I could probably do it tomorrow

 

[LordTracer]

Invisibility: Can make herself and others invisible, even partially. - Fantastic Four Vol 1 22, Fantastic Four Annual Vol 1 1

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Enhanced Senses: Can see invisible beings due to being able to detect the ever present cosmic rays alongside light - Fantastic Four Vol 3 63

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Extrasensory Perception: Can sense forcefields - Fantastic Four Vol 1 331

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Martial Arts: Judo practitioner - Fantastic Four Vol 1 17

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Power Nullification: Can make invisible energies visible, disable forcefields and intangible beings tangible - Fantastic Four Vol 1 242,, Fantastic Four Annual Vol 1 12, Fantastic Four Vol 1 29

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Forcefield Creation: Around herself and others, and manipulate the tension, size, shape, number and permeability of the forcefield. Can create airtight bubbles to suffocate opponents (this btw implies forcefields are likely variable in nature)- Fantastic Four Vol 1 23

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Shockwave Creation: As shown here

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Gonna have to do the rest later since Imgur has a limit on the amount of posts you can make in an hour.

 

[LordTracer]

Danmaku: As shown here

1

Instinctive Reactions: Instinctively throws down a forcefield many, many times

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Pseudo-Telekinesis: Can lift objects with her forcefields and remotely operate machinery with broken controls

1
2

Pseudoflight: Using forcefields

1

Creation: Can create forcefield constructs like bridges, parachutes and keys

1
2
3

Radiation Manipulation: Using her forcefields

1

Telekinesis: Using her forcefields

1

Matter Manipulation: Her forcefields cannot be affected by Molecule Manand can block out Sersi

1
2

 

[XXKINGXX69]

Can you combine them into 1 link? I can help do it if you need

 

[LordTracer]

Why exactly would I put them all in one link…

 

[XXKINGXX69]

I mean for each feat not all of them you r

 

[LordTracer]

Again, why would I do that? The scans aren’t connected beyond them showing the same ability, there’s no reason to group them together.

 

[XXKINGXX69]

Are they all different feats?

 

[LordTracer]

Yes…

 

[XXKINGXX69]

Nevermind then

 

[LordTracer]

Mind Manipulation: Blocked out the mind warping of Talisman

1-2

Temperature Manipulation: Can block out fireblasts from Volcana

1

Fire Manipulation: Her forcefields cannot catch fire

1

Corrosion Inducement: Her forcefield can block out corrosive gases

1

Darkness Manipulation: Can block darkforce blasts

1

Light Manipulation: Can block out light

1

Telepathy: Blocked out Psycho-Man from reading her thoughts

1

Magic: Can seal spells

1

Sound: Can block soundwaves, even ultrasonics

1
2

up to at least High 6-C with forcefields (Severely harms She-Hulk)

1

Class T with forcefields (Can restrain the Thing)

1

up to 3-C with forcefields (Blocks attacks from Impossible Man and Gladiator)

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2

tens of kilometers with Invisibility (Could make energies across all of Manhattan visible)

1

hundreds of meters with forcefields (Created a forcefield around a city block)

1

I’ll put the modern scans in Imgur tomorrow later today, it’s past 3 AM rn so I need to sleep.

 

[The_Impress]

thanks for the help so far

 

[Antvasima]

I don't think Heroes Reborn characters had different stats, at least not the characters who were originally outside the pocket dimension

Stellar lifting strength was established 20 years later. It was considered impressive when the Hulk even lifted a pyramid back during this era.

 

[The_Impress]

I don't want to delay applications for the rest so I'll concede on it for now

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Thank you for being reasonable.

 

[Qawsedf234]

• Attack Potency: 10-A, up to at least High 6-C with forcefields (Severely harms She-Hulk)

She didn't seriously harm She-Hulk. She gets up right after and she needs to choke her out to do anything.

2-A at peak, with forcefields (Managed to momentarily hold off Mad Celestials)

I wouldn't use this as legitimate scaling without more evidence. Right before Jonny blasted through the shoulder of one.

 

[The_Impress]

She didn't seriously harm She-Hulk. She gets up right after and she needs to choke her out to do anything.

...she is so shaken up she's stuttering and takes minutes to even stand. Malice decides to not bother hurting her generically and goes for a guaranteed oneshot. it definitely sca;es and I think it's as valid a harming an FF comic this era will allow for.

I wouldn't use this as legitimate scaling without more evidence.

Why so? She's doing it right there and it fits her stated peak scenario to the T