Marvel Animated Universe Discussion Thread

[Aguywhodoesthings]

Ok then, altho the Hand usually fights without Mandarin as he sends them out to do everything

 

[Dark-Carioca]

That happens with the Foot as well, and many other similar evil organizations and teams

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

K then, that means pretty much every villain affiliated with Mandarin needs a profile aswell
With the exception of Fin Fang Foom (as he appears fairly independent) and maybe Titanium Man?

 

[Dark-Carioca]

Ultimo also was doing his own thing and was just under mind control essentially

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

So basically the team would be the main goons + Mandarin and Modok then

 

[Dark-Carioca]

Indeed, though I guess you could add Ultimo and Foom's robot dragon team as optional members

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

Optional members can be added? Perhaps Foom and Titanium Man could just be listed as that, since Mandarin and Modok can still call them to help
Season 1 and Season 2 would also be different keys, due to several of the season 1 members not reappearing in the finale after Mandarin reforms The Hand (as the team was essentialy disbanded after he was presumed dead)

 

[Dark-Carioca]

Season 1 and 2 can be tabbers.

And optional members being added is just an idea, I don't know if anyone's done that.

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

I guess i'll ask about that later then

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

I'm gonna start a list of feats for Wanda and Century, this is only for stuff from episode 1 to 5 but i intend on updating it later
Scarlet Witch:

Spoiler: text

-Transforms into a zombie and hits another zombie hard enough to damage concrete
-Uses her powers to help Tony locate Ultimo's master switch
-Knocks over several robots
-Makes a rock to block Whirlwinds charge
-Harms Grey Gargoyle with some kicks
-Uses her powers to convince the armory computer to grant herself and Spider-Woman access
-Grows a rock into a mountain
-Creates some smoke by getting mad
-Deflects an attack from Blizzard and Whirlwind back at them
-Redirects Whirlwind at his allies
-Destroys the Heart of Darkness by redirecting energy from the Mandarin's ring into it
-Seemingly survives the Heart of Darkness exploding

Century:

Spoiler: text

-Teleports Force Works underwater with his staff, he also describes this as "bending time and space"
-Lifts up and throws a zombie
-Transforms all of the Mandarin's zombies back into humans
-Locates Iron Man with some weird jumblo i can't explain properly
-Appears through some sort of portal and heals Iron Man, tho it leaves him in suspended animation, he's fine a few minutes later tho

• Tony was having his armor twisted at the joints which would eventually cause him to "pop", in addition to having his armor heated up by Mandarin's ring and surviving an explosion. This can also be a stamina feat for Tony as he endured all this

-Throws his staff at Ultimo and has it return to him like a boomerang
-His staff is undamaged from being hit by a laser

• The same lasers can cut through adamantium mesh and the metal of a satellite

-Pulls E.L.F into some sort of portal
-Creates asteroids around Mandarin's ship
-Says he will turn back time to locate Tony, tho he doesn't actually show this off
-Can read lips
-Tries to locate Tony but cannot due to his duplicate
-Catches a falling tank of fever toxin and does a sweat mid-air flip
-Overpowers Hypnotia
-Reads Hypnotias mind
-Seemingly survives the Heart of Darkness exploding

You can consider the list completed

 

[Dark-Carioca]

For those two, at least

Nice work!

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

Tbf they don't have that much, i'm intending to make a list for Hawkeye and Spider-Woman, they have a lot more screentime so it'd probably be longer
The robots lasers cutting the adamantium mesh seems pretty impressive btw, can a destruction value be assumed for it? We aren't given much info on adamantium in the show afaik

 

[Dark-Carioca]

Probably

If it's stated to be hard and dense and stuff you can use an especially dense material as reference.

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

I don't think anything is specifically stated about it's durability
Modok and Hammer both wanted Mandarin's robot army to be coated in the stuff immediately after getting some decoy alloy in episode 8 tho, so that would imply it's more durable than most metals, i can't find clips for the episode online sadly

 

[Dark-Carioca]

Using the density of tungsten or something similar should be fine, prolly.

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

Alright then, i'll work on some calcs for Century and Wanda later then
Speaking of adamantium, Tony has access to Adamantium armor with nuclear capabilities but never uses it in the show ever

 

[Dark-Carioca]

If it's used by the Mandarin I guess it could be added to Tony's page

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

I don't think it does anything that would warrant a mention, Tony just makes the Mandarin punch himself in it and it doesn't show any feats besides that (also apologies for incorrectly saying the armor was green and gold like a month ago)

 

[Dark-Carioca]

Being his mightiest armor at that point in time (pre-Hulk Buster or Mk. II) and having nuclear capabilities is fairly noteworthy. The fact that it can damage itself is also interesting.

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

Fair enough then, i guess i'd just upscale heavily from his mark 1?

 

[Dark-Carioca]

We have nothing concrete on "nuclear capabilities" so it'd probably have to be "At least Large Building level, likely much higher"

Additionally if the Mk II and Hulk Buster armors are above it, that helps the whole "likely City level" part.

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

I'm uncertain on scaling the Mark 2 to the armor, as the mark 2 never shows off nuclear capabilities

 

[Dark-Carioca]

(Outside of that huge fireball and Titanium Man's explosion)

I imagine by nuclear capabilities it means it has firepower comparable to nuclear weapons. I can't imagine it means it can control nuclear weapons or something like that.

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

Yeah that actually makes more sense, i was thinking nuclear capabilities literally meant it was nuclear in some way (mfw Tony installs a nuke launcher in his armor)
Also isn't the titanium man explosion calc incorrect?

 

[Dark-Carioca]

Not incorrect just incalculable at the time, however in any other environment it'd be grounds for City level, or is at least enough to count as a city wiping explosion based on size.

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

Alrighty

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

Managed to find an english version of episode 8, Modok gives some info on the liquid adamantium alloy
"A single coating gives base metal the strength and durability of chrono steel" I may have misheard the last part since i'm pretty sure there is no such thing as chrono steel

 

[Dark-Carioca]

Maybe you misheard and he meant chrome steel? Same material used for King Kong's shackles, which does exist.

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

it very much sounded like chrono to me but chrome steel does make way more sense, I guess steel values can be assumed for adamantium as a pretty big low-ball then
Or would it be fine to stick with tungsten values?

 

[Dark-Carioca]

Chrome steel is fairly strong, too. Breaking it often yields Class M (or higher) results.

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

What's it's shear strength tho? The robots lasers seem to have simply destroyed a good chunk of the mesh

 

[Dark-Carioca]

This paper doesn't list shear strength

Depending on the source you could find shear strength in many ways, like doing 0.50 x Ult. Tensile Strength, if you need shear strength that's the one method you could use.

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

325000 psi is 2240.79MPa
2240.79 x 0.5 = 1120.395J/cm3

 

[Dark-Carioca]

Can I see the feat of it being destroyed?

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

The same lasers can cut through adamantium mesh and the metal of a satellite

Here

 

[Dark-Carioca]

Going frame by frame it looks like violent fragmentation.

Using v. frag of tungsten probably wouldn't yield much, I'm afraid.

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

It's probably in low wall level range
Still seems like Century's best feat besides the asteroid creation one (although this one only scales to the durability of his staff so it's not as important)

 

[Dark-Carioca]

Doesn't Century also power Iron Man's armor at one point?

 

[Aguywhodoesthings]

I assume you're referring to this?:

-Appears through some sort of portal and heals Iron Man, tho it leaves him in suspended animation, he's fine a few minutes later

Seems like he's just healing his injuries (as that's how he describes it)

 

[Dark-Carioca]

Fair enough