Marvel 1-A Scalling Chain.

[Tiger123Dragon]

My scaling chain here is my idea, you can do yours and discuss it


Oblivion .sees everything as fiction and says that everything will return to him. So transfinite times stronger than Above-All-Others Above-All-Others have been shown many times stronger than all fictional beings. Everything is his dream, as all creation came out of the House of Ideas.While Living Tribunal transcends all dualities, I don't think the concept of duality mentioned is good and evil. So I think Baseline 1-A. Beyonder says that all creation except him can be his dream

So Oblivion>Transfinite(Reality-Fiction)>Above-All-Others>Transfinite(Reality-Fiction)>Beyonder(Pre-Con)>Transfinite(Reality-Fiction)>Living Tribunal= baseline 1-A So Oblivion becomes 1-A +. And Oblivion becomes stronger than Lucifer,Mother Night,Micheal The Deimurgos etc. Reality-Fiction surpasses Baseline up to the infinite number of Transfinite clusters. So even if you are infinitely stronger than baseline, you will be infinitely weaker than Reality-Fiction. But I know that in your wiki, Living Tribunal is not accepted as 1-A. So this is an invalid scan.

However, the following are valid scan Oblivion>Transfinite>Griever of all things(Because the biggest threat to multiverse)>Beyonders>Eternity>Far Shore>Neutral Zone> ─░nfinte(The Neutral zone above everything.Blue Marvel says that although he knows little about the Neutral Zone, he hascompletely surpassed The Superflow)> Superflow>Dreams= baseline 1-A level. Because Marvel also applies jung psychology theory. According to this theory, dreams are infinite and beyond any concept, which completely transcends the time .If this is done it will be at the Monitor Sphere or Limbo level.

 

[Luck100]

Well, Dreams and fiction exist in the same sphere of higher plans in Marvel and inside eternity.

So ... TOAA > Thanos cosmic regulator > Thanos again (HOTU) > Obvilion > Beyonders = Owen Reece > Above all others and aspects of the same = One below All and World breaker > First Firmament and Eternity and his sons > some Gods. That'sjust my opinion but ...

 

[Tiger123Dragon]

If we add the cosmology of JM

Divine Creator> Book of Life > Transfinite(Reaality-Fiction)>Nexus of all Realties(JM's cosmology)>Transfinite(REality-Fiction)> Oblivion>Transfinite>Griever of all things(Because the biggest threat to multiverse)>Beyonders>Eternity>Far Shore>Neutral Zone> ─░nfinte(The Neutral zone above everything.Blue Marvel says that although he knows little about the Neutral Zone, he hascompletely surpassed The Superflow)> Superflow>Dreams= baseline 1-A

 

[GLHF22]

Explain how is this enough for 1-A+

 

[Luck100]

There are the mystical realms, divine realms (home of gods and fountain of creation) and even splinter realms who could scale with dreams realm.

 

[GLHF22]

Seeing something as fiction is just 1 transcendence.

 

[Luck100]

Seeing something as fiction is just 1 transcendence.

That's not the case here, the archytipe of fiction itself exists in Eternity and nigthmare almost conquerer it in Fantastic Four true story.

 

[Tiger123Dragon]

Explain how is this enough for 1-A+

"Mathematically, 1-A has its size represented by further uncountably infinite cardinals beyond useful applications of certain measures (ÔäÁ2 and onwards, most specifically) and can be extended unto greater levels of infinity, representing different complexities or qualitative "steps" on an Outerversal scale, in the same way 1-B and 1-C are divided. Characters who stand an infinite number of steps above "Baseline" Outerversal realms and structures are to have a + modifier in their Attack Potency section (Outerverse level+)" seeing an asset as fiction means that the asset that sees fiction is dimensionally superior to the fiction being. dimensional superiority such as 2d and 3d. so dimensional superiorty= Transfinite^2

and oblivion sees someone who sees an infinitely stronger reality than the baseline (neutral zone) as fiction. The Astral Regulator is part of the Thanos reader. The reader who sees the true form oblivion disappears. Oblivion>Transfinite^2>Astral Regulator Thanos>Above-All-Others>House of ─░deas>Transfinite^2(because reality-fiction)>Eternity=stronger than baseline

 

[GLHF22]

No, you need to transcends infinite Outerversal hierarchy to get 1-A+, infinitely stronger reality or dimensional superiority is just 1 transcendence.

 

[GLHF22]

That's not the case here, the archytipe of fiction itself exists in Eternity and nigthmare almost conquerer it in Fantastic Four true story.

I mean this just analogy, compared to character A, character B is just a mere fiction, thats just 1 transcendence.

 

[Tiger123Dragon]

No, you need to transcends infinite Outerversal hierarchy to get 1-A+, infinitely stronger reality or dimensional superiority is just 1 transcendence.

Dreams are 1-A in Marvel. Superflow beyond dreams and visions. Neutral zone is infinitely stronger than super flow. Far shore above neutral zone. And Molecule Man(with beyonders power) created Eternity. Molecule man is just an idea in house of Ideas. Astral Regulator Thanos > Above-All-Others> House of Ideas. Astral Regulator Thanos part of reader.and the reader who sees TF Oblivion disappears. I think Living Tribunal 1-A. Transduality. And beyonder sees it as fiction. Oblivion>Reality-Fiction>Astral Regulator Thanos>>Above-All-Others>House of Ideas>Realty-Fiction<Beyonder>Realty-Fiction>Living Tribunal= base 1-A

 

[GLHF22]

Nah, everything you said isnt even close to 1-A+, the difference between 1-A to 1-A+ is like 10-B to High 1-B

 

[Planck69]

@Tiger

That isn't 1-A+ at all. You'd need to actually show an infinite hierarchy to qualify. Seeing something as fiction is just normal transcendence without further context.

And most of the people in your scaling chain aren't even 1-A.

 

[Tiger123Dragon]

Nah, everything you said isnt even close to 1-A+, the difference between 1-A to 1-A+ is like 10-B to High 1-B

"Characters who stand an infinite number of steps above "Baseline" Outerversal realms and structures are to have a + modifier in their Attack Potency section (Outerverse level+)" Scp-2747 1-A+ because "The narrative stack itself is described as infinite, so it should be able to destroy narratives an infinite number of reality-fiction differences above the main narrative" Readers who see even Astral Regulator Thanos as fiction, exceeding the infinite 1-A hierarchy, disappear only by looking at Oblivion. Readers are beyond infinite stack of narratives. And oblivion transcends infinite Outerversal hierarchy

 

[Planck69]

That....is completely wrong.

>Readers who see even Astral Regulator Thanos as fiction, exceeding the infinite 1-A hierarchy, disappear only by looking at Oblivion. Readers are beyond infinite stack of narratives. And oblivion transcends infinite Outerversal hierarchy

OK, they see him as fiction, so what? That does not mean that they're above an infinite hierarchy. SCP actually defines their infinite narratives as stacking on top of one another, where is that proof here? Without it, it's just slightly above baseline 1-A, nothing more.

And where are the scans of these readers being beyond an infinite stack of steps above 1-A? I'd love to see them before you just start pulling feats out of your ass.

 

[GLHF22]

You need to know that "infinite Steps above outerversal hierarchy" doesnt mean you can get "+" by becoming infinitely stronger than baseline, seeing baseline as fiction is just 1 steps and you need infinite Steps to get "+"

 

[Tiger123Dragon]

That....is completely wrong.

>Readers who see even Astral Regulator Thanos as fiction, exceeding the infinite 1-A hierarchy, disappear only by looking at Oblivion. Readers are beyond infinite stack of narratives. And oblivion transcends infinite Outerversal hierarchy


OK, they see him as fiction, so what? That does not mean that they're above an infinite hierarchy. SCP actually defines their infinite narratives as stacking on top of one another, where is that proof here? Without it, it's just slightly above baseline 1-A, nothing more.

And where are the scans of these readers being beyond an infinite stack of steps above 1-A? I'd love to see them before you just start pulling feats out of your ass.

https://imgur.com/a/oYv5u

https://m.imgur.com/a/HAJN9nh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AlWkp--FIE


https://m.imgur.com/a/StG5

https://imgur.com/a/xBDjO7V


https://imgur.com/a/pkNPr

 

[Tiger123Dragon]

https://imgur.com/a/oYv5u

https://m.imgur.com/a/HAJN9nh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AlWkp--FIE


https://imgur.com/a/BQaMIii

https://m.imgur.com/a/StG5

https://imgur.com/a/xBDjO7V


https://imgur.com/a/pkNPr

 

[Planck69]

@Tiger

First scan? Clearly a leading question whose answer contradicts the cosmology and obviously can't be used for scaling, at all.

Second scan? Some stuff about Gwenpool's Fourth Wall Awareness. Also useless.

Video?....What does it have to do with infinite reality-fiction interaction.

Third Scan? Some stuff about writers transcending the universe. These writers are clearly NOT 1-A as they refer to singular space-time continua not the entire breadth and depth of Marvel.

Fourth scan? Doesn't mean anything at all for the wider cosmology so not sure why you even included it.

Last scan? Some more Gwenpool stuff which again, means jack to the wider cosmology.

Nothing here hints at any hierarchy of steps at all or the readers transcending it. No mention of Astral Regulator Thanos being below of them nor of Oblivion being superior to these readers.

 

[Antvasima]

GLHF and Planck are correct. We should probably close this thread.

 

[Tiger123Dragon]

https://***************.to/Comic/Thanos-The-Infinity-Ending

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[EmperorRorepmeThree]

Dude if you're going to make an argument on a forum, you need to structure it better.

 

[Planck69]

https://***************.to/Comic/Thanos-The-Infinity-Ending
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That scan is just......a description of Oblivion, nothing else. You haven't proven anything you were claiming at all and used material that was tangential to your claim at best and completely irrelevant at worst. Try to structure a better CRT if you're actually serious about this.

 

[Antvasima]

So should I close this?

 

[Planck69]

Yup

 

[Antvasima]

Okay.