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Why?!1st.
Why?!
Gonna delete one of my comments
Hey, Eques should have Reality Warping.
Hey i think he needs passives death manipulation. Let me check the chapters again Pretty sure winsel got scared of presence Passively Negging life or something
Oh wait ignore thisHey i think he needs passives death manipulation. Let me check the chapters again Pretty sure winsel got scared of presence Passively Negging life or something
Ah, never.I think he mean solid 2A
Someone named infinitecosmos in some threats was saying that we need to wait for volume 11 to get translated so we could get more proof for the layers having reality/fiction diff but who the hell is even gonna translate it? Jnovel club recently started translating but it's gonna a year to reach and we are not even sure that it will even have proof
1B anos = dream
Eques should show Mercyeques vs giorno
if eques needs a reality check, just call vivecEques should show Mercy
really sad 1B anos = will never be achieved1B anos = dream
My dream of tier high 1-A and 0 scps came true so perhaps if we dream of it, it can become real. The statements show that each layer is deeper and stronger than the last but just has no higher dimension statementsreally sad 1B anos = will never be achieved
Well in wiki that is.really sad 1B anos = will never be achieved
Know nothing about kratos so I can't sayHey i think kratos should be low 1C tier
Sorry, i comment in wrong threadKnow nothing about kratos so I can't say
Order is already plotNah, forget about it for now. Hopefully Shu would write about a chief god from a deeper layer that determines the plot of the world or something similar
Trying to collect all supporters POV.. funny thing is many don't even know dilpred statementMake a CRT
Well assuming this qualifies as plot manipulation it would be limited at best as they can only control the part of the plot their order operates in.Well wellSPOILER: CHAPTER 295
「神は秩序だ。 代行者もまた同じ存在だろう。 未来神ナフ タが見る数多の未来は、 その秩序によって構成されてい る。どれだけの力を持とうと秩序たる神には、秩序だった 未来を覆すことはできまい」
"God is order. The Agent would be the same being. The many futures that Nafta, the god of the future, sees are structured by that order. No matter how much power he may have, the ordered God cannot overturn the ordered future."
SPOILER: CHAPTER 404
「わたくしたち神は、この世界の秩序は、流れゆく川のよ うなもの。その水を途中で分水することはできても、本流 が変わることはなく、ましてそれは堰き止められるほど穏 やかな流れでもありません」
"We God, the order of this world is like a flowing river. We can divert its waters in the middle, but the main current never changes, much less is it a gentle stream that can be dammed."
Eques manipulated order. Don't care about other gods but he definitely has feats.Well assuming this qualifies as plot manipulation it would be limited at best as they can only control the part of the plot their order operates in.
The last statement also somehow implies that while they can manipulate events, they can't change the entire narrative or deviate from that narrative.
The only one who would get full blown plot manipulation would be eques as he not only surpasses all gods, is an aggregation of all the gods and determines the fate of everything.
This makes me question why magi gods have plot manipulation all the more because they manipulate fate and there's a never ending hierarchy. Its not like they can change the entire narrative, they just can suddenly determine others fate
How exactly is this plot manipulation? There needs for some metafiction to exist for plot manipulation to qualify. The best thing you have is DIlpred statement, but that is just analogue.Well wellSPOILER: CHAPTER 295
「神は秩序だ。 代行者もまた同じ存在だろう。 未来神ナフ タが見る数多の未来は、 その秩序によって構成されてい る。どれだけの力を持とうと秩序たる神には、秩序だった 未来を覆すことはできまい」
"God is order. The Agent would be the same being. The many futures that Nafta, the god of the future, sees are structured by that order. No matter how much power he may have, the ordered God cannot overturn the ordered future."
SPOILER: CHAPTER 404
「わたくしたち神は、この世界の秩序は、流れゆく川のよ うなもの。その水を途中で分水することはできても、本流 が変わることはなく、ましてそれは堰き止められるほど穏 やかな流れでもありません」
"We God, the order of this world is like a flowing river. We can divert its waters in the middle, but the main current never changes, much less is it a gentle stream that can be dammed."
Well by combining both dilpred and this you can literally argue for plot manipulation. Order cannot be changed but fate can. I hope you get what I mean.How exactly is this plot manipulation? There needs for some metafiction to exist for plot manipulation to qualify. The best thing you have is DIlpred statement, but that is just analogue.