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Maou Gakuin Discussion Thread

Why?!
Gonna delete one of my comments
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Someone named infinitecosmos in some threats was saying that we need to wait for volume 11 to get translated so we could get more proof for the layers having reality/fiction diff but who the hell is even gonna translate it? Jnovel club recently started translating but it's gonna a year to reach and we are not even sure that it will even have proof
1B anos = dream 🗿
 
Someone named infinitecosmos in some threats was saying that we need to wait for volume 11 to get translated so we could get more proof for the layers having reality/fiction diff but who the hell is even gonna translate it? Jnovel club recently started translating but it's gonna a year to reach and we are not even sure that it will even have proof
1B anos = dream 🗿
Use 1B scale for Anos outside the wiki no one bothers
 
There are many ways to try and get a tier 1 anos. I'll list em.
Transduality type 3 statement
The spear transcending dimensions and it's proven that it actually goes to a scope beyond 4-D spacetime if 4-D beings cant even react or detect it.
Eques harming TD 2 and acal type 5 Misfits before they can react with attacks that can Transend a 4-D scale
 
Nah, forget about it for now. Hopefully Shu would write about a chief god from a deeper layer that determines the plot of the world or something similar
 
SPOILER: CHAPTER 295

「神は秩序だ。 代行者もまた同じ存在だろう。 未来神ナフ タが見る数多の未来は、 その秩序によって構成されてい る。どれだけの力を持とうと秩序たる神には、秩序だった 未来を覆すことはできまい」

"God is order. The Agent would be the same being. The many futures that Nafta, the god of the future, sees are structured by that order. No matter how much power he may have, the ordered God cannot overturn the ordered future."

SPOILER: CHAPTER 404

「わたくしたち神は、この世界の秩序は、流れゆく川のよ うなもの。その水を途中で分水することはできても、本流 が変わることはなく、ましてそれは堰き止められるほど穏 やかな流れでもありません」

"We God, the order of this world is like a flowing river. We can divert its waters in the middle, but the main current never changes, much less is it a gentle stream that can be dammed."
Well well
 
SPOILER: CHAPTER 295

「神は秩序だ。 代行者もまた同じ存在だろう。 未来神ナフ タが見る数多の未来は、 その秩序によって構成されてい る。どれだけの力を持とうと秩序たる神には、秩序だった 未来を覆すことはできまい」

"God is order. The Agent would be the same being. The many futures that Nafta, the god of the future, sees are structured by that order. No matter how much power he may have, the ordered God cannot overturn the ordered future."

SPOILER: CHAPTER 404

「わたくしたち神は、この世界の秩序は、流れゆく川のよ うなもの。その水を途中で分水することはできても、本流 が変わることはなく、ましてそれは堰き止められるほど穏 やかな流れでもありません」

"We God, the order of this world is like a flowing river. We can divert its waters in the middle, but the main current never changes, much less is it a gentle stream that can be dammed."
Well well
Well assuming this qualifies as plot manipulation it would be limited at best as they can only control the part of the plot their order operates in.

The last statement also somehow implies that while they can manipulate events, they can't change the entire narrative or deviate from that narrative.
The only one who would get full blown plot manipulation would be eques as he not only surpasses all gods, is an aggregation of all the gods and determines the fate of everything.

This makes me question why magi gods have plot manipulation all the more because they manipulate fate and there's a never ending hierarchy. Its not like they can change the entire narrative, they just can suddenly determine others fate
 
Well assuming this qualifies as plot manipulation it would be limited at best as they can only control the part of the plot their order operates in.

The last statement also somehow implies that while they can manipulate events, they can't change the entire narrative or deviate from that narrative.
The only one who would get full blown plot manipulation would be eques as he not only surpasses all gods, is an aggregation of all the gods and determines the fate of everything.

This makes me question why magi gods have plot manipulation all the more because they manipulate fate and there's a never ending hierarchy. Its not like they can change the entire narrative, they just can suddenly determine others fate
Eques manipulated order. Don't care about other gods but he definitely has feats.
 
SPOILER: CHAPTER 295

「神は秩序だ。 代行者もまた同じ存在だろう。 未来神ナフ タが見る数多の未来は、 その秩序によって構成されてい る。どれだけの力を持とうと秩序たる神には、秩序だった 未来を覆すことはできまい」

"God is order. The Agent would be the same being. The many futures that Nafta, the god of the future, sees are structured by that order. No matter how much power he may have, the ordered God cannot overturn the ordered future."

SPOILER: CHAPTER 404

「わたくしたち神は、この世界の秩序は、流れゆく川のよ うなもの。その水を途中で分水することはできても、本流 が変わることはなく、ましてそれは堰き止められるほど穏 やかな流れでもありません」

"We God, the order of this world is like a flowing river. We can divert its waters in the middle, but the main current never changes, much less is it a gentle stream that can be dammed."
Well well
How exactly is this plot manipulation? There needs for some metafiction to exist for plot manipulation to qualify. The best thing you have is DIlpred statement, but that is just analogue.
 
How exactly is this plot manipulation? There needs for some metafiction to exist for plot manipulation to qualify. The best thing you have is DIlpred statement, but that is just analogue.
Well by combining both dilpred and this you can literally argue for plot manipulation. Order cannot be changed but fate can. I hope you get what I mean.
 
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