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Maou Gakuin Discussion Thread

If anyone completely read Magic bullet world Arc it's stated fire dew to deep layers worlds comes from foamy/ bubble world not from shallow layers bubbles.

If we were make an explanation layers being infinite size and fire dew would be supplying in infinite amount.

So technically deeper layers bubbles are Infinitely above shallow layers bubbles.
 
Nightmare_Bloodfallen said:
If anyone completely read Magic bullet world Arc it's stated fire dew to deep layers worlds comes from foamy/ bubble world not from shallow layers bubbles.

If we were make an explanation layers being infinite size and fire dew would be supplying in infinite amount.

So technically deeper layers bubbles are Infinitely above shallow layers bubbles.
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Nah the whole "Order flows from shallow to deep" statement contradicts this.
 
Just add it then. It's a mostly uncontroversial addition, and I didn't see anyone disagree with it after all.
 
Has Anos ever used magic to amplify his physical abilities before?

Assuming 1B Anos gets accepted, does he lose the 99+ *uncountable layers to his hax and resistances?
 
Tatsumi504 said:
Has Anos ever used magic to amplify his physical abilities before?

Assuming 1B Anos gets accepted, does he lose the 99+ *uncountable layers to his hax and resistances?
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Whenever he uses nirvana he amps his power. Also magic bullet world has too many feats.
 
Nightmare_Bloodfallen said:
Whenever he uses nirvana he amps his power. Also magic bullet world has too many feats.
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I misunderstood. Nirvana basically just unleashes the destruction Anos keeps at bay with each step, I want to know if he's ever used reinforcement magic to boost his speed, strength cause where I am in the WN he hasn't.

What about the 2nd question
 
Tatsumi504 said:
I misunderstood. Nirvana basically just unleashes the destruction Anos keeps at bay with each step, I want to know if he's ever used reinforcement magic to boost his speed, strength cause where I am in the WN he hasn't.

What about the 2nd question
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As far I know when Anos gets to destruction his AP stated to amp infinitely.

As for second question he should have uncountable layers of laws and concepts manipulation. It's not like every bubbles in each layers are same. Each has limited order.
 
Tatsumi504 said:
Why? Unlike other fictional works where baseline concepts government the entire cosmology, MG has feats of concepts getting stronger in each layer.
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Nightmare_Bloodfallen said:
As far I know when Anos gets to destruction his AP stated to amp infinitely.

As for second question he should have uncountable layers of laws and concepts manipulation. It's not like every bubbles in each layers are same. Each has limited order.
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Use this logic. This is not a headcanon. He should have uncountable layers of laws and concepts manipulation.
 
Tatsumi504 said:
Why? Unlike other fictional works where baseline concepts government the entire cosmology, MG has feats of concepts getting stronger in each layer.
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Yeah but it would still be baseline bruh, assuming that you means that a layer is a higher dimension, of course
 
Orioreeem said:
Why would it
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For example anos need to adjust to magic bullet world when he was completely fine in Abyssal world. I am pretty sure there is even statement of one world concepts not working in another world properly or something. Also one deeper layers world would have all shallow layer world laws and concepts. There was evena statement of deeper the world is more laws and concepts it merges. I don't know how to explain for example holy sword God of destruction can't go and destroy the world of magic bullet without adjusting to it.
 
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If each layer is a higher dimension then it would just be dimension level hax. So someone who us on the 88th layer would be 88D hax but not layered. Uncountable would just be there but not infinite so it would just be uncountable dimensional. Not layered.so at its peak its just baseline to that tier or dimension it is
 
Anyway if the deeper layer can use the shallow layer worlds as shogi pieces, isn't it R-F difference, hence a higher dimension?
 
If I am not mistaken, the reason why it get rejected because it does not associated with size? I might be mistaken though...
 
Yemma670 said:
Anyway if the deeper layer can use the shallow layer worlds as shogi pieces, isn't it R-F difference, hence a higher dimension?
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eliaspower1234 said:
Didnt that get rejected? In one of the CRTs
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NIK_FARIS said:
If I am not mistaken, the reason why it get rejected because it does not associated with size? I might be mistaken though...
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  • Previous CRT was poorly made and they didn't argued much
  • Also there is big misunderstanding about Shogi piece here. Chief god can make Shogi piece out of their own world not other world. Also Shogi piece is made because of Fire dew not the bubble itself but it's connected if you destroy Shogi piece the bubble world would completely destroyed.
  • Reality Fiction cannot be shown in between deeper layers and Shallow layer because worlds are seperate plane of existence they are not connected to one another. Only chief god is connected to thier own respective world.
  • Magic Bullet World was also trying to use silver bubbles as bullets. You see worlds are closed off and only one who can perceive outside world/SS are chief gods
 
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Not going to lie. None of that sound Tier 1 worthy, not being able to percieve other Worlds is barely supporting evidence. (I just mentioned the perception part because previous posts I read seemed hung up on the concept of that being Tier 1 evidence)
 
Everything12 said:
Not going to lie. None of that sound Tier 1 worthy, not being able to percieve other Worlds is barely supporting evidence. (I just mentioned the perception part because previous posts I read seemed hung up on the concept of that being Tier 1 evidence)
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Yes but there are other things like eges spear which Transcends space time and Anos couldn't able to hurt even skin of deeper layers inhabitants even though he used hax. Deeper layers none are usable because of reality.

I think you are talking about Abyssal world
 
Transcendeping Space-Time the way the Spear did is not the same as the type need for Tier 1 (like Arceus possibly has); it's a movement thing, not a higher existence thing. Not being able to harm deeper layers inhabitants is supporting evidence, but on its own it could just be a durability thing based of higher AP. Not sure what your saying with the last point.
 
Everything12 said:
Transcendeping Space-Time the way the Spear did is not the same as the type need for Tier 1 (like Arceus possibly has); it's a movement thing, not a higher existence thing. Not being able to harm deeper layers inhabitants is supporting evidence, but on its own it could just be a durability thing based of higher AP.
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It's stated his spear Transcends dimension. His spear didn't worked in deeper layers because of reality of the world. All deeper layers inhabitants were catching that spear without any problem. But when Sasha destroyed the reality of that world his spear completely wiped out deeper layers inhabitants. My point is if deeper layers are in same plane of reality/Dimension spear would have Transcended normal plane and Negged deeper layers inhabitants in the first place no need to destroy the reality as speed is not dependent on dimensions it's even stated in speed FAQ page
Everything12 said:
Not sure what your saying with the last point.
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99+ layers can't be perceived because none get passed above that. It's arguable for shallow layers can't perceive deeper layers and even though 14K years already passed discovery of SS still none can go to deeper layers from shallow layers and check out Abyssal world this proves any deeper layers of SS are inaccessible for shallow layers.also deeper layers can't be perceived by shallow layers
 
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What makes this not higher dimensional again?


Anyway. After doing Arceus dirty for the past few days(betrayal of the highest order ngl), I'll be adding a new favorite.


Where can I read the Misfit WN/LN.
 
Everything12 said:
Not going to lie. None of that sound Tier 1 worthy, not being able to percieve other Worlds is barely supporting evidence. (I just mentioned the perception part because previous posts I read seemed hung up on the concept of that being Tier 1 evidence)
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Ngl. We have a curse that will prevent Anos from reaching tier 1 any time soon.
 
Sho should have given one statement it wouldn't come to this. There are tons of feats backs up higher dimensional existence
 
Sorry for not having all the context for a series I don't read and isn't fully translated

Can be interpreted as Higher-Dimensional Existence or Invulnerability from Law Manipulation (or Concept Manipulation or whatever you say Order is).
 
Everything12 said:
Sorry for not having all the context for a series I don't read and isn't fully translated

Can be interpreted as Higher-Dimensional Existence or Invulnerability from Law Manipulation (or Concept Manipulation or whatever you say Order is).
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Order is reality in the world.
 
Tbh is much better to stack layers of hax at 4D than to get baseline 5D, 6D, 7D, etc.

But the point still stands. There's good evidence for both HDE for each layer, or extreme layers of hax resistance at a 4D level. Choose
 
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