Maou Gakuin Discussion Thread

[Dog3352]

so there's no way they can lose HGR based on information when they don't have it in the first place

I mean they have both, but it looks like the information remains intact. Which is kind of strange, since the source (concept) itself exists deeper than the information, I thought that destroying the source would destroy the information along with it, and regenerat the source by regenerating the concept and information.

 

[Abstractly_a_Protagonist]

I mean they have both, but it looks like the information remains intact. Which is kind of strange, since the source (concept) itself exists deeper than the information, I thought that destroying the source would destroy the information along with it, and regenerate the source by regenerating the concept and information.

What? Didn't Elde CRT confirm that Information exists inside the source? By destroying the source it would also erase the fundamental information (info type 2).

 

[Abstractly_a_Protagonist]

that's exactly it, the argument is that Rimuru could regenerate from an attack that can erase skills (like Beelzebub) that are information, but Tensura skills stay in the core (another thing made of information), but the technique has never been able to destroy the heart which is something deeper than the body, mind and soul, in fact the only reason Hinata managed to erase Beelzebub was because Rimuru sacrificed the skill instead of suffering the attack, there are other scans of another character who has infinite regeneration who explicitly said not to be able to regenerate the core, as well as a statement by Rimuru saying he will die if the core is destroyed, but they didn't accept any of those arguments lol I find the counter-arguments very unconvincing

My knowledge regarding Tensura sometimes scares me.
Maybe this is why I shouldn't read all those Anos vs Rimuru Vs threads from long ago.

 

[Motivation_L2LR1]

Hello, I'm new here, nice to meet you.

So, I just remembered some things, please correct me if I'm wrong: Gods are Order in the most literal sense, like, Abstract Existence Type 1. A god's authority is a part of their Order, with gods being able to use their authority whenever they want. Kandaquizorte is Nafta's authority. Gods also exist in the future, proof of this is Yzak, who freezes the futures in which he is destroyed, and Nafta's eyes, through which she can see herself in the future. Is everything that I said correct? If yes, it means that all gods, and thus their authorities, exist in all of the infinite futures normally, which, in turn, means that in each one of the infinite futures of Nafta's Kandaquizorte, there is a Nafta with a Kandaquizorte, which also holds infinite futures, each future also having a Nafta and Kandaquizorte... infinitely, is this right? Or am I thinking too much?

Changing subjects, does someone knows the chapter or has the scan that states that the Book of Traces records the past as videos? I remember seeing something about it in a thread made by @EldemadeDityjon.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Hello, I'm new here, nice to meet you.

Nice to meet you too.

So, I just remembered some things, please correct me if I'm wrong: Gods are Order in the most literal sense, like, Abstract Existence Type 1. A god's authority is a part of their Order, with gods being able to use their authority whenever they want. Kandaquizorte is Nafta's authority. Gods also exist in the future, proof of this is Yzak, who freezes the futures in which he is destroyed, and Nafta's eyes, through which she can see herself in the future. Is everything that I said correct? If yes, it means that all gods, and thus their authorities, exist in all of the infinite futures normally, which, in turn, means that in each one of the infinite futures of Nafta's Kandaquizorte, there is a Nafta with a Kandaquizorte, which also holds infinite futures, each future also having a Nafta and Kandaquizorte... infinitely, is this right? Or am I thinking too much?

A member named pain already brought it up and I don't think anyone takes this as Seriously and i am not bothered to take it either until LN has something else .

Changing subjects, does someone knows the chapter or has the scan that states that the Book of Traces records the past as videos? I remember seeing something about it in a thread made by @EldemadeDityjon.

It's not records them as video more like book imprints / writes the world records and shows the events which is imprinted in the book like a video or projectile. Just take the movie theater as example. Movie is displayed in the screen but reels imprints the complete movie. I hope this explains your questions.

As for chapters regarding book of traces refer 275 and 330

 

[Abstractly_a_Protagonist]

If yes, it means that all gods, and thus their authorities, exist in all of the infinite futures normally, which, in turn, means that in each one of the infinite futures of Nafta's Kandaquizorte, there is a Nafta with a Kandaquizorte, which also holds infinite futures, each future also having a Nafta and Kandaquizorte... infinitely, is this right? Or am I thinking too much?

This is plausible way of thinking about it.
But inherently, yes, this thinking too much about it.

As far as I'm concern, the narrative wouldn't explore that option and fixated on something that lack context would lead to headcanon territory.

 

[Motivation_L2LR1]

Nice to meet you too.

A member named pain already brought it up and I don't think anyone takes this as Seriously and i am not bothered to take it either until LN has something else .

It's not records them as video more like book imprints / writes the world records and shows the events which is imprinted in the book like a video or projectile. Just take the movie theater as example. Movie is displayed in the screen but reels imprints the complete movie. I hope this explains your questions.

As for chapters regarding book of traces refer 275 and 330

I see, thanks for replying.

 

[Motivation_L2LR1]

This is plausible way of thinking about it.
But inherently, yes, this thinking too much about it.

As far as I'm concern, the narrative wouldn't explore that option and fixated on something that lack context would lead to headcanon territory.

Got it, thank you.

 

[Hajun]

Does anyone watched the season2 episode 1 ?

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Does anyone watched the season2 episode 1 ?

It's supposed to release at midnight. So no

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

I see, thanks for replying.

No problem. If you have any doubts feel free to ask. If you use Discord join this channel we normally discuss MG topics there. Otherwise fine ask here only.

Discord - Group Chat That’s All Fun & Games

Discord is great for playing games and chilling with friends, or even building a worldwide community. Customize your own space to talk, play, and hang out.

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[Hajun]

I have to wait till midnight to watch it

 

[Hajun]

No problem. If you have any doubts feel free to ask. If you use Discord join this channel we normally discuss MG topics there. Otherwise fine ask here only.

Discord - Group Chat That’s All Fun & Games

Discord is great for playing games and chilling with friends, or even building a worldwide community. Customize your own space to talk, play, and hang out.

discord.gg

Am I the only one who doesn't have discord ? Iam an old man after all

 

[Abstractly_a_Protagonist]

Am I the only one who doesn't have discord ? Iam an old man after all

Hah! Boomer!

 

[Rendynoc0unter]

Excuse me, let me introduce my wife ​

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Excuse me, let me introduce my wife ​

W

 

[Demon_King]

It's supposed to release at midnight. So no

Well
Is there any hope that anos will get plot manipulation ?

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Well
Is there any hope that anos will get plot manipulation ?

Not in the wiki because of Glassman Ignorant Arguments. Just use my explanation outside the wiki. People who can actually read with patience can understand what I was trying to say.

 

[Demon_King]

Not in the wiki because of Glassman Ignorant Arguments. Just use my explanation outside the wiki. People who can actually read with patience can understand what I was trying to say.

Oh okie

 

[Demon_King]

Not in the wiki because of Glassman Ignorant Arguments. Just use my explanation outside the wiki. People who can actually read with patience can understand what I was trying to say.

What about sir pegasus ?
Is he willing to help you in the thread ?

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

What about sir pegasus ?
Is he willing to help you in the thread ?

It's new year weekend & i don't know if Pegasis gonna take a look at the thread. He is offline for few days. Let's see if he replies or not.

 

[Hajun]

Ok now I want to request Eldemade to make omnipresent eques

 

[Dog3352]

Ok now I want to request Eldemade to make omnipresent eques

Only after he makes him omnipotent

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Ok now I want to request Eldemade to make omnipresent eques

I am not a wish granting hammer

 

[Hajun]

I am not a wish granting hammer

 

[Hajun]

Only after he makes him omnipotent

And Don't forgot omniscient

 

[Sacchan]

• Immortality types 1, 2 & 5 (Gods are immortal and don't even live)

Idk if anyone has stated this out but if this is true then venuzdonoa should have immo neg type 5 since it can kill almost all gods.

 

[Orioreeem]

Idk if anyone has stated this out but if this is true then venuzdonoa should have immo neg type 5 since it can kill almost all gods.

It shouldn't. Venuzdonoa is erasing them from existance rather then killing them

 

[Sacchan]

It shouldn't. Venuzdonoa is erasing them from existance rather then killing them

It was stated that you need ability such as existence erasure to negate immo type 5 so I don't see the problem.

5: Deathless Immortality: Characters who exist unbound by conventional life or death, or do not exist at all, and thus cannot be traditionally killed. Typically, abilities such as Existence Erasure are needed to destroy them.

 

[Sacchan]

And if I am not wrong, Graham true nothingness lacks all order, which means it would also lack the order of life and death as well but Venuzdonoa was still capable of erasing him a few time.

If this is accepted then I think this will be the best description:

Immortality Negation (Type 5; Can kill Gods who are immortal and don't even live, Capable of killing Graham who lacks all order, which include the order of life and death.)

edit: feel free to edit the description if I made any grammar error

 

[Delta333]

So the size of all layers are the same right? I just realized that assuming that's the case then Anos will have only 6-D range even if his AP is 1-B due to being able to destroy 99+ layers

 

[Dereck03]

So the size of all layers are the same right? I just realized that assuming that's the case then Anos will have only 6-D range even if his AP is 1-B due to being able to destroy 99+ layers

Hello guys i'm new here

1-B Anos when?

 

[Delta333]

1-B Anos when?

I'm legitimately making it rn (in my country they even accept my High 1-B mgk ) and then I wonder it's still worth if the hax and AP are 1-B but the range remains 6-D.

Hello guys i'm new here

Hello I'm new too.

 

[Dereck03]

the range remains 6-D.

The layers are more deeper so you will need more range to reach a new layer so it works

Hello I'm new too.

First time here as well... Hope we can get along.

 

[Delta333]

The layers are more deeper so you will need more range to reach a new layer so it works

Because the layers have the same size, so that only increases baseline 5-D range unless deeper layer's size is uncountable infinite of shallow layer's size.

 

[Everything12]

I'm legitimately making it rn (in my country they even accept my High 1-B mgk ) and then I wonder it's still worth if the hax and AP are 1-B but the range remains 6-D.

So what's the evidence your going to bring forth.

 

[Dereck03]

Because the layers have the same size, so that only increases baseline 5-D range unless deeper layer's size is uncountable infinite of shallow layer's size.

Nah, every deeper layer is another dimension, to reach that layer you will have to reach that dimension and with 6-D you won't be able to reach it so it's ok.

 

[Dereck03]

So what's the evidence your going to bring forth.

TikTok scaling perhaps.

 

[Everything12]

TikTok scaling perhaps.

So probably an argument that has already been rejected or isn't applicable for the wiki's standards.

 

[Delta333]

So what's the evidence your going to bring forth.

Something like, deeper world=uncountable infinite amounts of any random things within that world (bubble is accepted to be a spacetime), and anything within deeper world is stronger than shallow world as a whole, so that makes the gap between shallow and deeper world uncountable.

TikTok scaling perhaps.

Joke on you I don't use TikTok, if not even straight up despise it with every fibre of my being.