Maou Gakuin Discussion Thread

[Caduz213]

She can any abilities based on rumours and legends. Lay Evansmana is based on rumours actually that's why it keeps on growing everyday and time.

She should get information type 2 manipulation.

If Avos is rumored to be stronger than Zinnia Shivaheld, then she will be

 

[Tatsumi504]

If Avos is rumored to be stronger than Zinnia Shivaheld, then she will be

Not exactly. She wasn't as strong as Anos either. Her power is limited to how strong the rumors think the person is and the person could very well be much stronger than that.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

If Avos is rumored to be stronger than Zinnia Shivaheld, then she will be

Bro it's not works like that but not the works on powerwise but it can work for reactive evolution or something like that. Evansmana is great example.

 

[Tatsumi504]

@EldemadeDityjon say when you wanna drop the CRT for lay here before posting it. I got some scans for shigshesta.

 

[ImmortalDread]

@EldemadeDityjon say when you wanna drop the CRT for lay here before posting it. I got some scans for shigshesta.

Yap, please ^^

 

[Tatsumi504]

Durability negation, resistance to existence erasure, power mimicry, limited resistance to power nullification and status effect inducement, scans for these are ready.

Can anyone remember the chapter shigshesta was made to mimic magnetic waves? Would help with the power mimicry.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Can someone check Jerga vs anos and canon WN chapter. If Lay really cut off Jerga fate and negated his destiny. Evansmana should get Immortality type 1 negation.

 

[ImmortalDread]

Can someone check Jerga vs anos and canon WN chapter. If Lay really cut off Jerga fate and negated his destiny. Evansmana should get Immortality type 1 negation.

Mind sharing the wn chapter link? I will read it

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Mind sharing the wn chapter link? I will read it

I forgot which chapter bro. It's around 100 chapter s

 

[ImmortalDread]

I forgot which chapter bro. It's around 100 chapter s

Link? I will try to figure it out (translated one, if not, welp I will translate it myself)

 

[Dereck03]

 

[Tatsumi504]

Can someone check Jerga vs anos and canon WN chapter. If Lay really cut off Jerga fate and negated his destiny. Evansmana should get Immortality type 1 negation.

I'm currently reading through that area. I'll mention you if i find it

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Link? I will try to figure it out (translated one, if not, welp I will translate it myself)

魔王学院の不適合者　～史上最強の魔王の始祖、転生して子孫たちの学校へ通う～ - 勇者 対 魔王

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ncode.syosetu.com

 

[Caduz213]

Can someone check Jerga vs anos and canon WN chapter. If Lay really cut off Jerga fate and negated his destiny. Evansmana should get Immortality type 1 negation.

Wasn't it because of Venuzdonoa that destroyed reason?

 

[Dereck03]

IIRC in the Anime Lay said that he cut his fate with Evansmana, don't remember in the novel

 

[Caduz213]

IIRC in the Anime Lay said that he cut his fate with Evansmana, don't remember in the novel

He did it because of Venuzdonoa who destroyed the reason something sacred can't destroy another sacred thing

 

[Caduz213]

episode 8 is different in the anime and WN. Maybe there is a difference at the end of the arc too

 

[Tatsumi504]

@EldemadeDityjon

On the giant's head, the sword Venuzdonoa was swung down, and the spiritual god sword Evasmana was swung down so that it overlapped there.



"... gu, ah... ah..."



　The body of the armored giant disappears.



　Thoughts from humans in Azesion are still supplied.

　The magic remains, but the light fades more and more as if it can't maintain its existence.



　<demon condemnationJerga>'s fate has been cut off, and the magic is about to disappear.

Found it

 

[Tatsumi504]

He did it because of Venuzdonoa who destroyed the reason something sacred can't destroy another sacred thing

Venuzdonor only destroyed the reason that something holy can't be destroyed by something holy as well. Evansmana is what cut his fate

 

[Tatsumi504]

IIRC in the Anime Lay said that he cut his fate with Evansmana, don't remember in the novel

Yep

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

episode 8 is different in the anime and WN. Maybe there is a difference at the end of the arc too

Wasn't it because of Venuzdonoa that destroyed reason?

That has nothing to do with Lay negating Jerga Immortality. Lay couldn't hurt Jerga because he was holy magic. Venozdonor just destroyed that reason later lay cut off his fate. It's also Regeneration Negation lol. Venozdonor didn't destroyed Jerga it was literally lays doing. Venozdonor only destroyed reason.

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

@EldemadeDityjon

Found it

Chapter?

IIRC in the Anime Lay said that he cut his fate with Evansmana, don't remember in the novel

Lay kinda has powernull via cutting off fate of things. He even done same thing with Costoria. When he cutted off her floating eyes there power got nulled.

 

[Tatsumi504]

That has nothing to do with Lay negating Jerga Immortality. Lay couldn't hurt Jerga because he was holy magic. Venozdonor just destroyed that reason later lay cut off his fate. It's also Regeneration Negation lol. Venozdonor didn't destroyed Jerga it was literally lays doing. Venozdonor only destroyed reason.

Its WN chapter 112, forgot to mention it

 

[Caduz213]

Chapter?

112

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

「霊神人剣が宿命を断ちきり、わたくしを精霊に、彼女を魔族に分かとうとも、その根源が増えるわけではありませんもの。あなたがおっしゃった通り。一つの根源が二つに分かれれば、長くは生きられないでしょう。それは、ミサも同じことですわ」

"Even if the Spirit Divine Human Sword breaks the destiny and divides me into spirits and her into demons, it does not increase the source of the destiny. It is as you said. If one root is divided into two, it will not be able to live for a long time. It is the same for the mass."

How to consider this. Negation to fusion or something ?

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

　ゆっくりと彼女は振り向き、理滅剣ヴェヌズドノアを一閃した。

　後から放った刃が、因果を逆転させるかの如く、＜天牙刃断てんがはだん＞を斬り裂いた。

　Slowly, she turned around and flashed her Rishonen Venuzdonor sword.

　The blade she released afterwards sliced through the <Tenga Blade Cutting Blade> as if to reverse the cause and effect.

Even though it's stated in chapter 185 Venozdonor can manipulate causality don't know why causality manipulation for Venozdonor still not updated

 

[Dereck03]

Even though it's stated in chapter 185 Venozdonor can manipulate causality don't know why causality manipulation for Venozdonor still not updated

Literally from Venuz Page
Causality Manipulation (Can reverse cause and effect to make a slower attack overcome a faster attack[7]

 

[EldemadeDityjon]

Literally from Venuz Page
Causality Manipulation (Can reverse cause and effect to make a slower attack overcome a faster attack[7]

Wait when did this got added didn't someone was complaining about Venozdonor lacking causality manipulation few days ago.

 

[Dereck03]

Wait when did this got added didn't someone was complaining about Venozdonor lacking causality manipulation few days ago.

Since it was created.

 

[Tatsumi504]

How to consider this. Negation to fusion or something ?

Fissionism, is capable of separating her into two different beings

 

[Tatsumi504]

Even though it's stated in chapter 185 Venozdonor can manipulate causality don't know why causality manipulation for Venozdonor still not updated

Chapter 185? She? Is this referring to misa? cause I'm sure sasha can't use it yet.

 

[Tatsumi504]

Imagine if venuzdonor also has its own secret depths like other demon, holy and spirit swords? How OP would it be?

 

[ImmortalDread]

Imagine if venuzdonor also has its own secret depths like other demon, holy and spirit swords? How OP would it be?

Did Anos reach abyss yet?

 

[Tatsumi504]

Did Anos reach abyss yet?

Don't know yet

 

[ImmortalDread]

Don't know yet

If he reached, would his tiering change?

 

[Orioreeem]

No most likely

 

[Iiliminal]

the abyss is actually a boundless construct that holds all forms of cardinality trust me im an expert

 

[ImmortalDread]

the abyss is actually a boundless construct that holds all forms of cardinality trust me im an expert

Trusted you

 

[Iiliminal]

W

 

[Tatsumi504]

Hey guys, isn't information manipulation type 2?