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Maou Gakuin Discussion Thread

I think we can upgrade to (99+ Above the baseline ) or (99+ Uncountable) layer of nothingness for Graham, like (99+ Uncountable) layer of resistance to concept manipulation that Anos already has, because Graham is nothingness without reason/logic even in deep layer of silver sea, even the whole verse.

So I think that makes more sense than infinite layers, but we can upgrade to infinite layer of nothingness if the silver sea has infinite layers in the future
 
XarxesBreak said:
I think we can upgrade to (99+ Above the baseline ) or (99+ Uncountable) layer of nothingness for Graham, like (99+ Uncountable) layer of resistance to concept manipulation that Anos already has, because Graham is nothingness without reason/logic even in deep layer of silver sea, even the whole verse.

So I think that makes more sense than infinite layers, but we can upgrade to infinite layer of nothingness if the silver sea has infinite layers in the future
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No his nothingness has nothing to do with potency of order.
 
So about plot hax… can it negate any ability? Or are there something’s it can’t affect
 
Caduz213 said:
I apologize.It seems that September 23 is just the date of the event that will give information about these animes that are being mentioned in the video
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Dereck03 said:
This is the closest we have to a definition at the moment, the reason we don't have the ability on the wiki is because you can barely count the characters that would qualify. And yeah, Anos would qualify.
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Hey
Isn't eques has higher dimensional existence ?
If so then anos is able to effect higher dimensional existence right ?
 
There are many layers in the Silver Sea, and there are countless bubbles in each layer, and there is an infinite sky in each bubble. There, it stretches on endlessly with no end, and it is where that world's gods are located.
Each god has its own world, and there is a deeper world, the world of the Chief God or the abyssal world.
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This line i don't quite get it. By normally

Mortal world < World of gods < Chief gods< deeper world < Abyssal world.

I wonder why he swapped chief god & deeper world places.
 
Dread said:
Eques is 2B? Thought he is low 2-C
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He should be 2A for being a chief god logically speaking. Each deeper layers world will have all shallow worlds weight and reality mixed into it. Layer 0 should have infinite bubbles which would give infinite worlds reality to one world of layer 1.
 
Dread said:
Eques is 2B? Thought he is low 2-C
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Well isn't that anos should get Transduality type 3 by demolishing that only 1-A characters have Transduality type 3 just like plantonic concepts

Trans type 2 is false general transduality which allows a being to be superior to all the dual concepts and their tendency to affect the nature of dual concepts within an entire boundary of reality.... But when someone goes even beyond that boundary of reality then it goes into trans type 3 column...

As in case of anos he is already superior to concepts and principles due to his nep2 and combined state of high order and fate manipulation but now since he descended to deeper layers of world violating more than one reality layer of the structure his level of transcendence has crossed that limited boundary so he's qualified for trans type 3 altho it doesn't mean much cuz anos is already above order of the verse so even without trans type 3 his state can't be reduced
 
So the strongest demon kings in this verse are
  • zinnia
  • Amira
  • Mutoh
  • heahenia
  • anos
 
Anos also pulled out Levaingirma, a sword which was stated that only omnipotent being can pull it and anos pulled it out with ease.
So isn't anos is nigh-omnipotent ????
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
Noah should be comparable to Amura
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Can you also please correct me if there are any mistakes in this


What can Rimuru do to Anos? Well, just in fact? Nothing, nothing and nothing again. Rimuru can devour Anos by Beelzebub...? Useless. People tried to absorb his powers and tried to cancel his powers. The first turned out to be a disaster for the caster, and by the second, Anos has resistances. Moreover, one of the strongest Gods tried to cancel his magic with conceptual influences, and anyway it was useless until Nosgalia overstrained himself to erase the usual jio-Graze. Rimuru can erase Anos into nothing through Turn Null...? Useless. Anos has absorbed Graham's Core, which is non-conceptual nothingness. Rimuru can create an infinite number of clones, attack with all magic and destroy Anos? Useless. The sword of the all-powerful Levaingirm renders Anos immune to all forms of destruction, including mental, spiritual, conceptual, and anti-conceptual influences. Even a direct multiverse+ level attack couldn't cut off Anos' arm. Just his arm. Rimuru simply doesn't have the ability to kill Anos. Rimuru is non-conceptual, and Anos inside his core rotted non-conceptual Graham => Blood of Destruction ignores non-conceptualism. Passing Azathoth for Anos will not be difficult due to Graham's foundation, which allows him to exist in the form of absolute nothingness, even after nothingness has been destroyed. Rimuru's imaginary space does not save, as Anos will look into Rimuru's abyss and simply move to his imaginary space with the Varoika spell. The principle that only Rimuru can be there quietly is destroyed by the Magic Eyes of Chaotic Destruction. Any manipulation of probability is countered by Venejiar's spell. Blows that pierce space and time are stopped by Anos's bare hands even in Volume 1, when he was at his weakest. I'm not even talking about the fact that Anos can take the powers of the Great Spirits with the help of the Je-Shenza spell and, in principle, is at least multidimensional. Considering the fact that there is another hierarchical structure beyond the silver sea of 100%, I don't even know what level Anos will rise to by Volume 16, while Rimuru has nowhere to rise above the multiverse level.




Just so you know Principle > Concepts & meta-concepts, anos himself has principle manipulation, origin manipulation, reason manipulation, etc. I can name fews more ability and feats that stomp rimuru easily: Anos CM1 is superior than rimuru hence destroying the concept of slime will also destroy rimuru, Anos Eocd destroy everything in sight including principle, reason, origin, nothingness, Nonexistent, etc, his eyes even destroy & nullify passive and things that has always been activated/existed, Rimuru can't effect higher dimensionality existence which mean he can't even touch anos which would give anos the win automatically.
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
Noah should be comparable to Amura
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"it unknown if it was a 13D universe, but it was stated to be the 13th karakuri Fuchiban universe & anos viewed it as merely toy then destroyed it, gods can use lower layer universes as shogi piece (Japanese chess-like game) and this is a small proof that there are dimensional gap between reality & fiction in MGK (graham was stated to transcend dimensions as well)"


He said it is stated on chapter 580
 
Anos voadigoad

Anos is unbeatable and unkillable, even tier 1 unable to permakill him.

-Transduality type 3 -NEP nature 2 -Acausality type 5.

(The Big Three Of His Defense Without MEOCD).

He is the hardest tier 2 character to kill without having smurf hax.

His reactive evolution will make him grow even stronger.

Note: some outerversal characters can destroy anos.

Also there is magical eyes of chaotic destruction which can even destroy logic and capable of destroying infinite multiverses in a blink and it is anos mega defence because it counters litterly everything like any conceptual or non-conceptual attacks but an disadvantage is MECOD can destroy something that is within its vision but even omnipresent character can't survive against anos if he was in vision of MECOD.

At last for defence anos has high godly regeneration immortality type 8 manipulation of nothingness Transduality type 3 acasuality type 5 Non-existent physiology type 2 and magical eyes of chaotic destruction.

there is venuzdonor the sword of destruction which can also destroys conceptual or non-conceptual attacks and logic and venuzdonor is reason destroying sword and venuzdonor is for offence and it has infinite range.

both venuzdonor and MECOD can destroy reality and laws and space and time and logic and every concepts and every non-concepts etc

Also please understand the meaning of concepts before debating me and for example that every ability that CCC gilgamesh have is a 'concept and example 2 every skill or immortality or imaginary space or etc rimuru have is a 'concept" (i am talking about current LN rimuru).

both venuzdonor and MECOD can destroy nothingness (not permanently because due of its nature it will regenerates).

Overall defence for anos that includes his resistances too and i can't mention or explain about them because there are too many and if you want see his resistances then you can check his profile in ws wiki battles and not only his resistances you can also see his powers and abilities too.


Any mistakes ?
 
bruh idk apparently its cuz of inconsistencies or whatever if u want to know its definitely not on this thread that u should ask
 
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