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Maou Gakuin Discussion Thread

I am really sorry
But i new to this
So i just want clarify my questions
I really don't want to spam but i don't know where to ask these type of questions :(
 
Dereck03 said:
Just ask in one post
Dereck03 said:
Just ask in one post.
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Ok
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Is anos is nigh-omnipotent because
Anos also pulled out Levaingirma, a sword which was stated that only omnipotent being can pull it and anos pulled it out with ease.

Isn't that anos should get trans type 3 by demolishing the only 1A characters have trans type 3 just like platonic concepts
Trans type 2 is false general transduality which allows a being to be superior to all the dual concepts and their tendency to affect the nature of dual concepts within an entire boundary of reality.... But when someone goes even beyond that boundary of reality then it goes into trans type 3 column...

As in case of anos he is already superior to concepts and principles due to his nep2 and combined state of high order and fate manipulation but now since he descended to deeper layers of world violating more than one reality layer of the structure his level of transcendence has crossed that limited boundary so he's qualified for trans type 3 altho it doesn't mean much cuz anos is already above order of the verse so even without trans type 3 his state can't be reduced

Can you tell me if there is any mistakes also this has nothing to do with rimuru
What can Rimuru do to Anos? Well, just in fact? Nothing, nothing and nothing again. Rimuru can devour Anos by Beelzebub...? Useless. People tried to absorb his powers and tried to cancel his powers. The first turned out to be a disaster for the caster, and by the second, Anos has resistances. Moreover, one of the strongest Gods tried to cancel his magic with conceptual influences, and anyway it was useless until Nosgalia overstrained himself to erase the usual jio-Graze. Rimuru can erase Anos into nothing through Turn Null...? Useless. Anos has absorbed Graham's Core, which is non-conceptual nothingness. Rimuru can create an infinite number of clones, attack with all magic and destroy Anos? Useless. The sword of the all-powerful Levaingirm renders Anos immune to all forms of destruction, including mental, spiritual, conceptual, and anti-conceptual influences. Even a direct multiverse+ level attack couldn't cut off Anos' arm. Just his arm. Rimuru simply doesn't have the ability to kill Anos. Rimuru is non-conceptual, and Anos inside his core rotted non-conceptual Graham => Blood of Destruction ignores non-conceptualism. Passing Azathoth for Anos will not be difficult due to Graham's foundation, which allows him to exist in the form of absolute nothingness, even after nothingness has been destroyed. Rimuru's imaginary space does not save, as Anos will look into Rimuru's abyss and simply move to his imaginary space with the Varoika spell. The principle that only Rimuru can be there quietly is destroyed by the Magic Eyes of Chaotic Destruction. Any manipulation of probability is countered by Venejiar's spell. Blows that pierce space and time are stopped by Anos's bare hands even in Volume 1, when he was at his weakest. I'm not even talking about the fact that Anos can take the powers of the Great Spirits with the help of the Je-Shenza spell and, in principle, is at least multidimensional. Considering the fact that there is another hierarchical structure beyond the silver sea of 100%, I don't even know what level Anos will rise to by Volume 16, while Rimuru has nowhere to rise above the multiverse level.
This is mine

Just so you know Principle > Concepts & meta-concepts, anos himself has principle manipulation, origin manipulation, reason manipulation, etc. I can name fews more ability and feats that stomp rimuru easily: Anos CM1 is superior than rimuru hence destroying the concept of slime will also destroy rimuru, Anos Eocd destroy everything in sight including principle, reason, origin, nothingness, Nonexistent, etc, his eyes even destroy & nullify passive and things that has always been activated/existed, Rimuru can't effect higher dimensionality existence which mean he can't even touch anos which would give anos the win automatically.
Not mine Is there any mistakes in this

Anos voadigoad

Anos is unbeatable and unkillable, even tier 1 unable to permakill him.

-Transduality type 3 -NEP nature 2 -Acausality type 5.

(The Big Three Of His Defense Without MEOCD).

He is the hardest tier 2 character to kill without having smurf hax.

His reactive evolution will make him grow even stronger.

Note: some outerversal characters can destroy anos.

Also there is magical eyes of chaotic destruction which can even destroy logic and capable of destroying infinite multiverses in a blink and it is anos mega defence because it counters litterly everything like any conceptual or non-conceptual attacks but an disadvantage is MECOD can destroy something that is within its vision but even omnipresent character can't survive against anos if he was in vision of MECOD.

At last for defence anos has high godly regeneration immortality type 8 manipulation of nothingness Transduality type 3 acasuality type 5 Non-existent physiology type 2 and magical eyes of chaotic destruction.

there is venuzdonor the sword of destruction which can also destroys conceptual or non-conceptual attacks and logic and venuzdonor is reason destroying sword and venuzdonor is for offence and it has infinite range.

both venuzdonor and MECOD can destroy reality and laws and space and time and logic and every concepts and every non-concepts etc

Also please understand the meaning of concepts before debating me and for example that every ability that CCC gilgamesh have is a 'concept and example 2 every skill or immortality or imaginary space or etc rimuru have is a 'concept" (i am talking about current LN rimuru).

both venuzdonor and MECOD can destroy nothingness (not permanently because due of its nature it will regenerates).

Overall defence for anos that includes his resistances too and i can't mention or explain about them because there are too many and if you want see his resistances then you can check his profile in ws wiki battles and not only his resistances you can also see his powers and abilities too.
Mine any mistakes ?



My final question


Which is powerful
Logic manipulation or choas manipulation and why

Please once you answer these questions i don't bother you guys again and i don't send any posts after this
 
Demon_King said:
Is anos is nigh-omnipotent because
Anos also pulled out Levaingirma, a sword which was stated that only omnipotent being can pull it and anos pulled it out with ease.
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No
Demon_King said:
Isn't that anos should get trans type 3 by demolishing the only 1A characters have trans type 3 just like platonic concepts
Trans type 2 is false general transduality which allows a being to be superior to all the dual concepts and their tendency to affect the nature of dual concepts within an entire boundary of reality.... But when someone goes even beyond that boundary of reality then it goes into trans type 3 column...
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Tf you are asking here? TD 2 and TD 3 will getting merged anytime soon and the 1-A requirement will be removed as well so
Demon_King said:
As in case of anos he is already superior to concepts and principles due to his nep2 and combined state of high order and fate manipulation but now since he descended to deeper layers of world violating more than one reality layer of the structure his level of transcendence has crossed that limited boundary so he's qualified for trans type 3 altho it doesn't mean much cuz anos is already above order of the verse so even without trans type 3 his state can't be reduced
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Idk why are you asking here.
Demon_King said:
Can you tell me if there is any mistakes also this has nothing to do with rimuru
What can Rimuru do to Anos? Well, just in fact? Nothing, nothing and nothing again. Rimuru can devour Anos by Beelzebub...? Useless. People tried to absorb his powers and tried to cancel his powers. The first turned out to be a disaster for the caster, and by the second, Anos has resistances. Moreover, one of the strongest Gods tried to cancel his magic with conceptual influences, and anyway it was useless until Nosgalia overstrained himself to erase the usual jio-Graze. Rimuru can erase Anos into nothing through Turn Null...? Useless. Anos has absorbed Graham's Core, which is non-conceptual nothingness. Rimuru can create an infinite number of clones, attack with all magic and destroy Anos? Useless. The sword of the all-powerful Levaingirm renders Anos immune to all forms of destruction, including mental, spiritual, conceptual, and anti-conceptual influences. Even a direct multiverse+ level attack couldn't cut off Anos' arm. Just his arm. Rimuru simply doesn't have the ability to kill Anos. Rimuru is non-conceptual, and Anos inside his core rotted non-conceptual Graham => Blood of Destruction ignores non-conceptualism. Passing Azathoth for Anos will not be difficult due to Graham's foundation, which allows him to exist in the form of absolute nothingness, even after nothingness has been destroyed. Rimuru's imaginary space does not save, as Anos will look into Rimuru's abyss and simply move to his imaginary space with the Varoika spell. The principle that only Rimuru can be there quietly is destroyed by the Magic Eyes of Chaotic Destruction. Any manipulation of probability is countered by Venejiar's spell. Blows that pierce space and time are stopped by Anos's bare hands even in Volume 1, when he was at his weakest. I'm not even talking about the fact that Anos can take the powers of the Great Spirits with the help of the Je-Shenza spell and, in principle, is at least multidimensional. Considering the fact that there is another hierarchical structure beyond the silver sea of 100%, I don't even know what level Anos will rise to by Volume 16, while Rimuru has nowhere to rise above the multiverse level.
This is mine
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Demon_King said:
Just so you know Principle > Concepts & meta-concepts, anos himself has principle manipulation, origin manipulation, reason manipulation, etc. I can name fews more ability and feats that stomp rimuru easily: Anos CM1 is superior than rimuru hence destroying the concept of slime will also destroy rimuru, Anos Eocd destroy everything in sight including principle, reason, origin, nothingness, Nonexistent, etc, his eyes even destroy & nullify passive and things that has always been activated/existed, Rimuru can't effect higher dimensionality existence which mean he can't even touch anos which would give anos the win automatically.
Not mine Is there any mistakes in this
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Not reading this wall of text, I don't even want to get involved in Anos vs Rimuru as there is a lot of delicacy in this topic. The only thing you have to know is that Anos stomps him.
Demon_King said:
Anos is unbeatable and unkillable, even tier 1 unable to permakill him.
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Maybe
Demon_King said:
-Transduality type 3 -NEP nature 2 -Acausality type 5.
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TD Type 2 not Type 3 yet.
Demon_King said:
(The Big Three Of His Defense Without MEOCD).
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Ye
Demon_King said:
He is the hardest tier 2 character to kill without having smurf hax.
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Yes
Demon_King said:
His reactive evolution will make him grow even stronger.
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Yes
Demon_King said:
Note: some outerversal characters can destroy anos.
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Ofc
Demon_King said:
Also there is magical eyes of chaotic destruction which can even destroy logic and capable of destroying infinite multiverses in a blink and it is anos mega defence because it counters litterly everything like any conceptual or non-conceptual attacks but an disadvantage is MECOD can destroy something that is within its vision but even omnipresent character can't survive against anos if he was in vision of MECOD.
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Yeah and nonsense, don't ask if you already know the answer
Demon_King said:
At last for defence anos has high godly regeneration immortality type 8 manipulation of nothingness Transduality type 3 acasuality type 5 Non-existent physiology type 2 and magical eyes of chaotic destruction.
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Yeah
Demon_King said:
there is venuzdonor the sword of destruction which can also destroys conceptual or non-conceptual attacks and logic and venuzdonor is reason destroying sword and venuzdonor is for offence and it has infinite range.
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Venuz ignores the distance as distances are irrelevants for it.
Demon_King said:
both venuzdonor and MECOD can destroy reality and laws and space and time and logic and every concepts and every non-concepts etc
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Yeah?
Demon_King said:
Also please understand the meaning of concepts before debating me and for example that every ability that CCC gilgamesh have is a 'concept and example 2 every skill or immortality or imaginary space or etc rimuru have is a 'concept" (i am talking about current LN rimuru).
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Don't care
Demon_King said:
both venuzdonor and MECOD can destroy nothingness (not permanently because due of its nature it will regenerates).

Overall defence for anos that includes his resistances too and i can't mention or explain about them because there are too many and if you want see his resistances then you can check his profile in ws wiki battles and not only his resistances you can also see his powers and abilities too.
Mine any mistakes ?
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kay
Demon_King said:
My final question


Which is powerful
Logic manipulation or choas manipulation and why
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By wiki terms, Logic should be above Chaos, same in MG
 
Dereck03 said:
No

Tf you are asking here? TD 2 and TD 3 will getting merged anytime soon and the 1-A requirement will be removed as well so

Idk why are you asking here.


Not reading this wall of text, I don't even want to get involved in Anos vs Rimuru as there is a lot of delicacy in this topic. The only thing you have to know is that Anos stomps him.

Maybe

TD Type 2 not Type 3 yet.

Ye

Yes

Yes

Ofc

Yeah and nonsense, don't ask if you already know the answer

Yeah

Venuz ignores the distance as distances are irrelevants for it.

Yeah?

Don't care

kay

By wiki terms, Logic should be above Chaos, same in MG
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Thank you so much and goodbye
 
Is there any way to give MEoCD and Purple Eyes High-Godly Regen Negation? Basically scales to all Venuz abilities.
 
Dereck03 said:
Is there any way to give MEoCD and Purple Eyes High-Godly Regen Negation? Basically scales to all Venuz abilities.
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I am gonna upgrade for MEOCD Immortality type 9 negation along with lay upgrade. HGR for Purple eyes not sure. Because I still don't understand how those works. I mean is those eyes just powernull or really destroying gods is there any instance they doing those things. Destroying gods?
 
i did say chaotic destruction eyes should have transduality +Acausality+NEP 2+ High godly regen neg.
If anos was 6-D, would he stomp fate divine spirits?
 
Dereck03 said:
Kay, i want to see the new upgrades.
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Tell me this. 👇
EldemadeDityjon said:
HGR for Purple eyes not sure. Because I still don't understand how those works. I mean is those eyes just powernull or really destroying gods is there any instance they doing those things. Destroying gods?
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Is it just great powernull or does they really has. Feat for destroying God anywhere.
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
Eldemade shown to use Time god scythe by creating order of time or something. He should get all order abilities and he also replicated Dilpred order against Naga.
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He used it himself or he summoned the god? Also it should be every order except creation and destruction and that of the chief god
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
Tell me this. 👇

Is it just great powernull or does they really has. Feat for destroying God anywhere.
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They destroy gods order not literally destroying gods. So yes its a **** ton of powernull.

Problem now is that since it can null venuzdonor do we consider anyone who can resist it to have 99*uncountable layers of resistance?
 
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So, guys, we need now all relevant scans to lay upgrade, so we can create CRT
 
Tatsumi504 said:
Eldemade is handling it apparently. I went back to read from volume 4 so I can create a profile for eldemade/nousgalia, misa/avos dilhevia, shigshesta.
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Wait who the heck is shigesta 💀.

Misa/Avos just copy paste Anos abilities. She can't use EGA and magic eyes but she literally copy cat of Anos. She almost can use other Abilities that anos uses. Spell creation is one of them may be. She currently copied Lays Sword. She also should get Evansmana abilities. Well she can copy things like that but it's works more of Manipulating information of spirits
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
Wait who the heck is shigesta 💀.

Misa/Avos just copy paste Anos abilities. She can't use EGA and magic eyes but she literally copy cat of Anos. She almost can use other Abilities that anos uses. Spell creation is one of them may be. She currently copied Lays Sword. She also should get Evansmana abilities. Well she can copy things like that but it's works more of Manipulating information of spirits
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Which abilities can she copy?
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
Wait who the heck is shigesta 💀.

Misa/Avos just copy paste Anos abilities. She can't use EGA and magic eyes but she literally copy cat of Anos. She almost can use other Abilities that anos uses. Spell creation is one of them may be. She currently copied Lays Sword. She also should get Evansmana abilities. Well she can copy things like that but it's works more of Manipulating information of spirits
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She has EoD though and can use venuzdonor
 
EldemadeDityjon said:
I don't remember she using Venozdonor after her rumours got reformed.
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It wasn't stated whether she was unable to summon it again. Her rumors and lore is still centered around Anos though so I don't see why not.

If more rumors about Anos spread and we get a story about it we might see her using some of his other abilities like world destroying magic and purple eyes
 
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