Makoto Nanaya vs. Machina

[Theglassman12]

All you said is he's old and fought a speedy boi. Squirrel girl is better in every way cause she's a waifu

 

[Tony_di_bugalu]

I agree that being a waifu is better that almost everything but I stand my ground >:v

 

[Ionliosite]

So Makoto is more skilled but Machina can't be killed. Does Machina have any other win-con?

 

[PsychoWarper]

Actually Makoto doesnt have Type 1 Immortality so he can win by outlasting.

 

[00potato]

I doubt any fight will last that long.

 

[Theglassman12]

Outlasting isn't a wincon here when Makoto can just beat him in a fist fight and make him submit.

 

[PsychoWarper]

I mean if she cant permanently deal with him then she eventually dies and he doesnt.

 

[Theglassman12]

She can. His Regenerationn won't work and he'll eventually be beaten to a pulp and most likely get KO'd in the end.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

His stamina is limitless, so that's not working.

 

[Theglassman12]

How does stamina equate to being knocked out?

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

How do you knock someone out with Low-Godly? Isn't that brain damage at that point?

 

[Theglassman12]

Makoto negates his Regenerationn factor. He's not gonna recover from his wounds.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

I mean, Machina also has regen neg, and durability neg.

 

[Theglassman12]

Both of which are resisted by Makoto. His durability negation is reliant on destroying your soul which Makoto can shrug off on a 2-A to Low 1-C level.

 

[Milly_Rocking_Bandit]

Alright, Makoto FRA.

 

[GogitoQ]

Regenerate (Which is negged here) and be intimidating.
Just hax is based completely around punching things, he is a pretty decent fight though.

Is stated Einherjar reliant on reinhard idk how Makoto bypass that

 

[Theglassman12]

She doesn't need to bypass that. She just needs to incapacitate him.

 

[GogitoQ]

ah alright

 

[GogitoQ]

how long does she incapacitate her oppoent?

 

[Theglassman12]

as long as any normal knockout would take to win a fight.

 

[SleepyTBubble]

She doesn't need to bypass that. She just needs to incapacitate him.

The issue with his Type 8 is that it works as a regenration too. Such as Eleonore not minding being decapited and still going on

Btw, Machina isn't even made of bones lmao. His Relic is of a special type, and because of that, he is fused with it. His relic being a Tiger Tank. In fact, his interior body is all gears and cables. No blood flow inside him, his entire skeleton and muscle fibers are all just steel. Even his brain has been abandonned and so is the bone marrow

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Essentially a KO, wouldn't work against Machina because he's in constant formation.

 

[Theglassman12]

Yeah that's nothing new to Makoto. One of her coworkers that she fights from time to time is also made of robotic parts and she can subdue him.

 

[SleepyTBubble]

robotic parts or entirely?

Machina entire body is steel. There's not a single thing human about him anymore. And his relic is constantly deployed meaning he's always active and cannot be KO'd into unconsiousness

Also she fights against him storywise? I don't remember that. Even moreso subduing him

And like i said, Type 8 make them regen too

 

[Theglassman12]

Yes Tager's entire body is made of robotic parts, Kokonoe even flat out said she removed his heart as well in terms of how non-human he is.

Yes in CF she fought and defeated Tager in her arcade mode.

Ok, and does he resist having his Regenerationn factor be negated? Cause I don't see him resisting Regenerationn negation on his profile.

 

[SleepyTBubble]

It being arcade mode doesn't bode well with me.

I mean, unless she can bypass Type 8 which is based around High 1-A (Mercurius) then yes, he'd able to regenerate through it

And Relics do have Regenerationn hindrance that all Apostles are capable of overpowering (As seeing in Wilhelm vs Wolfgang fight were they continuously regenerate despite having their entire bodies and limbs go apart)

 

[Theglassman12]

You do know that the arcade mode has story contextual fights right? They're all equally valid.

Immortality and Regenerationn aren't the same thing. Especially when the type 8 just says they cannot die, not that they can regenerate as long as Reinhard exists.

Is said Regenerationn hindrance on a high godly level? Cause everyone and their mother in Blazblue has that on that level in droves.

 

[SleepyTBubble]

>Immortality and Regenerationn aren't the same thing. Especially when the type 8 just says they cannot die, not that they can regenerate as long as Reinhard exists.

Except for Masadaverse it is. Especially when Eleonore regenerated from being decapited and it was noted as being immortal due to her Einherjar status.

Type 8 immortality goes to hand with Regenerationn in Shinza to begin with. Habaki Sakagami type 8 gives him regen, Reinhard type 8 gives him regen where it was stated he would reform back after being blasted away and ect

 

[Theglassman12]

All I see on the profiles is they have Regenerationn from Gladheimr, not that they regenerate from their immortality.

> Hakabi type 8 gives him regen

You mean the guy that DOESN'T have type 8 on his page whatsoever?