Making Tier 0

[Haruki_Shizu]

What is the simplest way to make a tier 0 character?

 

[QuasiYuri]

Don't.

 

[Haruki_Shizu]

Don't.

Why?

 

[Hasty12345]

"omnipotent" statements

 

[Haruki_Shizu]

"omnipotent" statements

Isn't omnipotent a NLF?

 

[QuasiYuri]

Why?

Usually cringe + bad + meaningless

 

[Haruki_Shizu]

Usually cringe + bad + meaningless

But,what if it is necessary?

 

[Hasty12345]

But,what if it is necessary?

in what circumstance is a character as strong as tier 0 "necessary"?

 

[Haruki_Shizu]

in what circumstance is a character as strong as tier 0 "necessary"?

When making a character that stands at the absolute topmost position of the entire verse,I guess

 

[QuasiYuri]

But,what if it is necessary?

It never is necessary.

 

[Masterlight]

Trust me mate,as tempting as it is that's a terrible idea.

 

[Haruki_Shizu]

Trust me mate,as tempting as it is that's a terrible idea.

Any advice?

 

[FinePoint]

You do drugs, basically.

 

[Mr._Undetected]

What for?

And do you mean you want to create a tier 0 character?

Or do you want to scale it?

 

[Haruki_Shizu]

What for?

And do you mean you want to create a tier 0 character?

Or do you want to scale it?

It is part of my project,what I want to do is to create those kind of character without making them badly written and incomprehensible

 

[Mr._Undetected]

without making them badly written and incomprehensible

Wdym? Badly written? Can you explain more?

 

[Haruki_Shizu]

Wdym? Badly written? Can you explain more?

You know,the ones like suggsverse

 

[Masterlight]

Any advice?

If you want to make a verse with a tier 0 character then that well create nothing but controversy and arguments, most people won't like the idea and creating a character or a verse just for the sake of vs battles or to make your verse unbeatable..... Then don't, just trust me.

 

[Grand_Saver_Ritsuka]

laughs nervously while making plans for writing a tier 0 isekai webnovel

 

[Grand_Saver_Ritsuka]

jokes aside, just try using flowery language

 

[JustANormalPerson01]

What is the simplest way to make a tier 0 character?

Go to Google, search the highest cardinal known, copy-paste the definition and make a character being capable to destroy that number of universes

 

[Haruki_Shizu]

If you want to make a verse with a tier 0 character then that well create nothing but controversy and arguments, most people won't like the idea and creating a character or a verse just for the sake of vs battles or to make your verse unbeatable..... Then don't, just trust me.

I swear,it is not for the sake of vs battles or being unbeatable or anything,it's for storytelling purpose,I don't even care if people scale my character or not,I just want that character to stands at the highest peak possible in my verse

 

[Haruki_Shizu]

laughs nervously while making plans for writing a tier 0 isekai webnovel

"Mystery Novel" where battles doesn't really matters,more like an adventure to unravel some mystery that revolve around this character I'm trying to make

 

[Haruki_Shizu]

jokes aside, just try using flowery language

Like poems and philosophy?

 

[Haruki_Shizu]

Go to Google, search the highest cardinal known, copy-paste the definition and make a character being capable to destroy that number of universes

That sounds cheap and lazy af, any better way?

 

[Hasty12345]

That sounds cheap and lazy af, any better way?

that is the most indisputable way I suppose

 

[Haruki_Shizu]

that is the most indisputable way I suppose

Lol,do I really need to write a character that transcends the Icarus set ?

 

[Grand_Saver_Ritsuka]

Go to Google, search the highest cardinal known, copy-paste the definition and make a character being capable to destroy that number of universes

berkeley cardinal then? seriously tho it is not x cardinal number of universes, but x cardinal dimensional universe where higher dimensions infinitely superior to lower ones.

 

[Grand_Saver_Ritsuka]

Like poems and philosophy?

you can try taking inspiration from elder scrolls

 

[Peppypony]

me personally if i were to have a tier 0 character, i would just have them barely show up. i could literally like make the most obscure character in my story.

but even then i wouldn’t expect anyone to care about them except for this wiki and vsdebaters in general and i think it would be pointless if they’re not going to do anything. unless maybe on just one occasion (meaning it’s not something they can always do) a character gains extra power from this tier 0 character to defeat the bad guy or whatever? but even in that case i’d worry about accidentally making PIS moments or anything that gasp! makes them not tier 0!? oh my god! (sarcasm)

 

[NHTkenshin2]

Why?

Mf you are talking to the CEO of the tier 0 elimination

 

[NHTkenshin2]

Say a character created a mathematical
space.
Say that mathematical spaces are the sizes of mathematical stuff.
Say that that mathematical space is a mahlo cardinal in size.
Boom, tier 0 in 2-4 quotes

 

[Haruki_Shizu]

me personally if i were to have a tier 0 character, i would just have them barely show up. i could literally like make the most obscure character in my story.

but even then i wouldn’t expect anyone to care about them except for this wiki and vsdebaters in general and i think it would be pointless if they’re not going to do anything. unless maybe on just one occasion (meaning it’s not something they can always do) a character gains extra power from this tier 0 character to defeat the bad guy or whatever? but even in that case i’d worry about accidentally making PIS moments or anything that gasp! makes them not tier 0!? oh my god! (sarcasm)

That's exactly what I'm trying to do,this character doesn't even actually show up in the story,but regardless,this character is the main topic of the story

 

[NHTkenshin2]

Go to Google, search the highest cardinal known, copy-paste the definition and make a character being capable to destroy that number of universes

Or this also.
But this will probably be some shit like inaccessible cardinal layers into tier 0

 

[Haruki_Shizu]

Mf you are talking to the CEO of the tier 0 elimination

A good way to start a day,right?

 

[Peppypony]

That's exactly what I'm trying to do,this character doesn't even actually show up in the story,but regardless,this character is the main topic of the story

Ah ok, that could be interesting!

I wish you good luck though.

 

[Arceus0x]

either hard math or long work if you want to make a good cosmology that isn't cringe.

-first have something infinitely transcend space time or, even better, view it as fiction. You got to Low 1-C, the easiest tier 1 to make but the hardest to prove
-second, have an infinite hierarchy, or at least an endless one, of some planes of existence or entities that surpass each other in the same way stage 1 surpassed space time. You got to 1-B, High 1-B
-third, have a character be outright beyond stage 2. So beyond that no matter how much you'd reach for them by stacking infinite dimensions together you would never get to it, it is simply beyond dimensions overall, unbound by the concept. You got to 1-A.
-fourth, have a character outright transcend 1-A the same way, have it be unreachable by basic transcendencies, unmatched in anything. I think you might have gotten to High 1-A, though to be sure, make sure the difference between 1-A and the supposed High 1-A plane is the same level of difference as Low 1-C and 1-A.
-fifth, have a similar difference between the high 1-A plane and the tier 0 plane as the difference between low 1-C and 1-A and you reached tier 0.

 

[Ningenron]

Just slap math everywhere or some vague obscure philosophical idea that has some high end interpretation somewhere, ez.

 

[Arceus0x]

Just slap math everywhere or some vague obscure philosophical idea, ez.

congratulations! vsbattles have discredited your math for lacking the necessary properties and you are now 3-A

 

[Ningenron]

Didn't work with AWLBA /: