Major Content Revision about FoP and Jimmy Neutron.

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Sure. No problem.

 

[Eficiente]

Eh, I thought we were still discussing the changes, ok.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

We sort of are. However a good majority of this is making sure the staff lets us change the tiers so we can discuss other things , like scaling after the fairies are changed.

Also... Should we have a key for Timmy when he fought Crocker in Abra-Catastrophe, when he had two fairies. Due to Shirley , two fairies' powers likely equal straight up 2-C. Timmy stalemated him using the items of the Celestial Fairies, even straight up stating twice their magical strength is equal . We should also have another key named Wishology also when he has the power of the Celestial Wands .

 

[CursedGentleman]

We sort of are. However a good majority of this is making sure the staff lets us change the tiers so we can discuss other things , like scaling after the fairies are changed.

Also... Should we have a key for Timmy when he fought Crocker in Abra-Catastrophe, when he had two fairies. Due to Shirley , two fairies' powers likely equal straight up 2-C. Timmy stalemated him using the items of the Celestial Fairies, even straight up stating twice their magical strength is equal . We should also have another key named Wishology also when he has the power of the Celestial Wands .

Iirc,the only wand he used was the fire wand when he sang with KISS... This sounds something you would see in an anime or whatever

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

It soloes most animes though.

 

[Eficiente]

@2nd Existential Sure. He's already 2-C with any kind of fairy power, but he should have his most memorable and important keys.

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

Shouldn't Timmy have a tab for after he died and was turned into a Fairy? Or are we not counting the Drake Bell trilogy stuff?

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

@Efi I'm certain having Abracastatrophe and Wishology are memorable & important... Since both are important canon movies .

@Anine ... Ehh ... Drake Bell isn't considered canon to the tv series . It's heavily based on it... But not directly canon to it. Although ou can hypothesize the reference that Tootie is with Timmy during Channel Chasers may imply it's canonicity, but that's headcanon and speculation at best.

 

[CursedGentleman]

Shouldn't Timmy have a tab for after he died and was turned into a Fairy? Or are we not counting the Drake Bell trilogy stuff?

Is on his first key actually Darkanine

 

[Amelia_Lonelyheart]

I thought it was considered apocryphal.

To be fair the show itself has retconned Channel Chasers a few times.

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

That is true.

 

[Phoenix821]

Where was it said Two Faires could destroy all of creation?

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Wanda stated it in the final Jimmy/Timmy Power Hour Movie.

 

[Phoenix821]

When did she say it in the movie?

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

When Shirley was destroying FoPverse & Jimmy Jeutron's verse simultaneously. So... Pretty close to the end if the movie.

 

[Phoenix821]

i'll have to look later, also ther's another 5-B feat in Five days of Flarg

 

[Phoenix821]

I watched the Movie and Wanda never mentioned anything about destroying everything.

 

[Antvasima]

Well, if the proof is unreliable, we obviously cannot perform any upgrades.

 

[Phoenix821]

Also Jorgen never created a bomb to desroy both universes, it was said here that the bomb had "shockwaves so powerful it would tear the very fabric of time and the Earth will revert to it's original state, allowing me to remake in my own glorious image".

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you for the information.

 

[Phoenix821]

Here's more, Shirley was causing both universes to collapse, but it was over time here and not all at once

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. That can be hard to properly quantify. A high degree of 3-B perhaps?

 

[Phoenix821]

Well we never saw how much it spread, he did say both universes would be destroyed but we don't know how long it would take.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Well, bridging the 5-D distance between universes might make it 2-C anyway.

 

[Phoenix821]

If he does get 2-C I don't think it would scale to his durability

 

[Antvasima]

Well, I do not know enough about FoP to make a proper judgement call.

 

[Phoenix821]

Well I've posted links to scenes for context, also would thisbe 2-C?

 

[Antvasima]

No, that is just interdimensional teleportation.

 

[Phoenix821]

Okay I wasn't sure

 

[Antvasima]

Was it explicitly stated that Shirley was causing both universes to completely collapse?

 

[Phoenix821]

Well he said here at 29:56 he would give Jimmy and Timmy "a front row seat to the destruction of both their universes". He also said it would take two days for both their universes to be destroyed. He was safe in an third realm so he was unafected.

 

[Phoenix821]

Also about the realm, which he called Retrodimmsdaleaville, I believe it's a 2-D world because he said "This is just like the place where I was born". Shirley was originally a picture on a computer, that they printed out, and brought to life 13:23. They also just appear in the realm 27:32, so there's no proof he created it. Afterward then he starts bringing things from both worlds 28:25, and it causes giant holes to appear which starting growing and it's assumed that's what's going to destory both worlds.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay. Perhaps "Likely 2-C" then?

 

[Phoenix821]

For who Shirley?

Or the fairies?

 

[Antvasima]

Shirley.

 

[Phoenix821]

Ok should it be "Likely 2-C" over time, was going to destroy both Jimmy and Timmy's Universes?

 

[Antvasima]

That seems fine.

 

[Phoenix821]

Should he have a 5-B key for before he gained magic

 

[Antvasima]

I don't know. Based on what?

 

[Phoenix821]

For beng comparable to TImmy Turner who has several feats on that level. He did the iniverse destroying thing only after he ate Cosmo and Wanda's wands.