This is Kid Buu, his first instinct is to blow up the planet which I would assume would kill Nadkhan
Nadakhan could teleport behind and wish him gone, also Djinns like Arrakore were shown to be capable of returning to a blank empty void
Kid Buu has Kai Kai which allows him to instantly teleport to other dimensions and universes, also I assume he needs to say his wish out loud based on the wish feats I've seen (or at least it's highly in character) which wouldn't be quick enough to outpace Buu pointing to the ground beneath him and shooting a blast. Also he likely wouldn't teleport into the empty void on account of him lacking any means to sense Kid Buu attempting to blow up the planet.
That same guy took Wu out of the timestream just for the sake of a fight
This is Djinn King, he'll go straight for the kill
That's because Wu specifically wished for it, not something he'd do himself in-character. Even with that feat Buu would still blow up the area Nadakhan sends into the void since characters don't even notice any difference which would kill him.
According to his standard tactics (which I double checked due to not realizing the second key)
Nothing he'd do in-character first would be faster than Buu's immediate planet busting, which he has no means of figuring it before the fact
Speed is equalized, he'd teleport away
Like I said, he has no means of figuring out Buu is going to blow the planet up immediately. Also he can only teleport kilometers away normally, he'd need to make a wish in order to go farther away which requires more thought and effort than Buu would be outputting
That's not in his standard tactics and he'd still need to think about his situation and size Buu up, since based on what I've seen of him he really likes to talk and plan
It's Kid Buu, that's why lol. Literally his first instinct when waking up was blow up the planet, his second instinct was to do it again.
Teleportation
You said he would blow up the planet, it would be easy asf to dodge as literally the only thing he needs is to be high in the air
Oh really?
I wrote his Standard Tactics lmfao
All I saw on Standard Tactics was this:
I have no clue how it relates to nuking the battlefield as the first move.
He doesn't need to wish to teleport
its SBA, there's no talking and plan bs
Nadakhan can use his sleep manip without pulling a wish
That’s only for Djinn Prince Key, in that form yes he loves his SI and tricking people into wishing.
Teleportation isn't precog lol. The planet exploding is almost instant when the blast hits the ground and the Djinn has no means of knowing it's going to happen. You can't just say "Teleportation" as a means to avoid any attack
......... I don't think you realize how big of an explosion blowing up the planet is
Notice how the tactics literally say he will only use these abilities if the situation gets more threatening, he's not going to know he's about to die that nanosecond and won't have time to figure out how much of a threat Buu is
Even with that standard tactic Bloodlusted means the character does whatever is necessary in order to win, blowing up the planet counts and it is Buu's immediate first choice of action which he doesn't even need to think about doing.
He needs to in order to teleport out of Buu's planet range, since his normal teleportation is nowhere near far enough to escape it.
SBA doesn't remove that aspect from a character, if a character for example tends to use Social Influence in a fight they will do so. In character from what I seen he typically talks while fighting and will generally say something before or while attacking which takes more time then Buu blowing up
That would fall under mind manipulation due to how Nadakhan uses it which Buu resists (also side note, why tf doesn't Buu's profile have the resistance to magic from DBS. Retroactive canon is still canon)
Thanks for sending the scan. He needs to move his arms a lot for that + there were tons of panels and dialogue before he actually nuked the planet. Hell no it’s not instant and nowhere near it.
I don’t know, if I saw the giant blast in front of me I’d feel threatened, considering per SBA they think they wanna kill each other
The question is: why can’t he do literally anything else as the first move?
He looked pretty much like doing it from the scan you sent
SBA most defenetly won't push Nadakhan to put Buu to sleep instanly
Not Nadakhan instanly attacking Jay when he tried something
No? He just put her to sleep. If you want to make it mind manip, go ahead and make a CRTz
His own banishing feat has him letting someone rant to him before he responds woth a projectile and then taunts the other guy before he throws another one.
Oh no, that's the second attempt, THIS was his first attempt which is instant lol. Since the fighting area is solid ground Buu is just going to blast directly at his feet to nuke
Buu's first blast is tiny and he doesn't even aim it at his opponent, be goes for the ground. It's practically instant in this scenario
It's Buu, sure he could use his own superior teleportation to just instant blow up the Djinn with a ki blast however his go to first move is to blow up the current planet he's on. Kid Buu is a creature of pure destruction and doesn't care about much else
That's because Goku and co reacted to the first one fast enough because Buu woke up on a pillar instead of solid ground.
There's no way Djinn King Nadakhan would stand still and "start processing what's going on" if he sees an enemy do that. As soon as Kai and Cole started attacking, he went on and killed both
That's not how he acted when fighting the Ninjas
How is his teleportation "superior"
Nadakhan TP behind + Death hax
Djinns are litterally capable of breathing in voids
1) It is literally his own crewmate aka someone he knows;
This does not even destroy the Earth, just something within meters range.
Then why the hell were you saying nuking the Earth? This changes a lot.
I see
How does this is even matter? They are literally 4 KM away from each other per SBA, his range won’t be enough. And given this range Nadakhan will 100% just say/think about his wish outright instead of energy balls.
........ huh?
Not Nadakhan immediately starting to talk before firing off an attack
It's not biological based, it's magic used with the intention of affecting the mind to cause the victim to go to sleep. There's no reason why a resistance to mind manipulation wouldn't also apply to it, a CRT isn't needed for a resistance to resist a sub-version of itself.
Energy balls have travel time which Buu's would land quicker due to him aiming directly at his feet and firing instead of the Djinn who if we assume does everything to the best of his possible abilities as efficiently as he can needs to instantly teleport and fire his ability off on-
.............. that is literally an example of him being reactionary, he attacked after his opponents. If he sees Buu do that, his not going to "start processing' he's going to "start blowing up" because Buu isnt attacking him normally
It never says it effects mind. It being magic-based and not biology-based worsens your situation lmfao.
Sleep Manipulation is not a subset of Mind Manipulation? It doesn’t say that on the page.
What
4 KM Range covers it.
Wdym “both normal win cons”?
Also, can’t Nadakhan just use Attack Reflection? Lol
He only uses it against mfs he knows 100% can’t do anything against him and are not even worthy to fight
Bro never heard of word “incapacitate”
He doesn’t always do that, they were literally hiding and distracting him lmao, different contexts.
Given the range he would just go for insta-wish. And again, from the scan you sent his planetary nuke requires time.
He didn't talk before instanly attacking Nya
Ur missing the entire point
What does the ability being magic base even affect anything? Mind resistance would at best help him against Dream based tactics, nothing more
Regen from what? Getting soul haxed and put into a sleep into Nadakhan's Blade?
Yes, Nadakhan will start processing in a death match for unknown reasons, but Buu won't
He literally did in your own clip
Thought based low-multiversal teleportation >>> interdimensional BFR >>>>>>>>>>> hundreds of kilometers
Buu fires ki blast at feet, dodges attack with TP thanks to sensing him, wins
....... genuinely what in the world does that have anything to do with what I said? I never claimed the lack of oxygen was going to kill him.
Fair enough for the first guy wishing it..... but he still monologs to the other guy, him knowing the character doesn't change much when according to you two he just loves to stomp characters instantly as the King without talking at all
I can't hear, you can't read, it's outrite stated in that scan that the blast Buu fired would've blown up the planet without warning. Only reason Goku and Vegeta caught onto it is because they could literally sense how much energy was in it.
Because Buu fires the tiny blast at his feat, and upon contact with the ground the entire planet blows up.
The distance between Buu and his opponent isn't the factor, his distance to the ground does. His planet explosion is going to be much faster than it was originally and 4km is nowhere near far enough to be in the safe zone, neither is that teleportation
I said he loves his hax. He simply toyed with Ninjas and thought himself invincible against them, I’m pretty sure that is linked on the profile. In case of such huge range gap he’d rather just insta-wish the guy.
It says that he “tried to do it”, which implies that he didn’t do it for whatever reason, and we visually see the Earth being fine, so he won’t lead with destruction of the entire planet.
Not what your own scan on his first attempt shows.
His planet explosion not first but second attempt. Also Attack Reflection hard counters it.
He din't do It because Vegeta stopped him, but the attack would have blow the planet up
Because the attack din't hit the earth, due to Vegeta stoping him.
He Will.
Buu gonna aim the attack on his feet to destroy the planet, he not gonna have time to use attack reflection.
Nadakhan def can't TP himself and Buu outside the timestream
Why is his feat against Nya keep behind ignored?
Why didn't he directly fire at the pillar he was standing in then? Both your scans heavily implies otherwise
What stops Nadakhan from Fate Haxing him and just stop Buu from doing anything wrong?
No actually it doesn't because Buu's mental resistance to mind manipulation originates from magic too. So yeah is comparable in this sense
That's because it can vary depending on the usage of it, such as more conventional biological sleep manipulation generally falling under Poison (Which Buu resists too btw). The Djinn uses magic to affect the mind, so a magical mental resistance can cover it
I was referring to the Djinn firing off energy blasts, since that's typically where various forms of his hax comes from.
No, no it doesn't
BFR and Sleep manipulation, the literal first two things yall have been arguing for before side-stepping into death hax as if him he gets second chances at it
By all mean, show an example of him attack deflecting a planetary explosion strong enough to obliterate characters immensely stronger than him
He knows nothing about Buu, he has no reason to believe it wouldn't work.
You say that as if it's on the sleep manip example, it's not
....... But he does do that, it's not in character for him to just start immediately haxing everyone into oblivion the moment he becomes King. You are trying to argue as if he is bloodlusted.
Oh my goodness this is getting nowhere, and again for the 12,000 time Buu isn't going to be aiming at him so he wouldn't get a chance to use that
How was he able to stop him?..
And all Nadakhan will do is just think of literally any way to deal with Buu and he’s done. Due to Range, this is very likely to happen.
Mind Control resistance ≠ Sleep inducement resistance
Assuming Mind Hax Resistance gives you Resistance to Sleep Manipulation is just fallacious and has 0 basis. Nowhere on Sleep Manipulation says it is the case.
Headcanon.
It does. His first attempt did not destroy Earth.
Only against the people he knows are fodders
Just one of the many, many wincons Nadakhan has. He can simply think tor Buu to die, or not be able to do anything, etc. from a distance.
I don’t need to? Attack Reflection is a hax, not AP-based.
Not knowing ≠ thinking he is fodder. Especially given the distance, he will just insta-hax him.
What?
Yes, because he already saw what Ninjas can and can’t do. He thought himself invincible and was toying with them, I literally said it was on his profile, iirc on Standard Tactics.
No? I said why he would lead with this, you just ignored.
Let’s just agree to disagree then ig
Mind Control Resistance = resistance to every existing ability in fiction and beyond trust
