Magic For The Beast?

[ZacharyGrossman273]

"I accept that you exist. I don't have to accept what you are, but you're physical existence, I'll give you that. I don't understand. I was expected down here. I was given a safe landing and air. You need me for something. What for? Have I got to, I don't know, beg an audience? Or is there a ritual? Some sort of incantation or summons or spell?"

The Doctor assumed he would need to use magic to beat the beast, and he is only willing to use magic against magical enemies.


Furthermore, the beast being a demon should make him similar to Succubi like lilith or the demons who were minions of The Carnival Queen, both of whom used magic.


If this is too vague for a solid, could a "possibly magic" work?

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Actually, while we're at it, he should have the same powers as other other elder gods

 

[FanofRPGs]

I mean he is from the pre-universe. Him possibly having magic would make sense

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Not exactly? Guardians of time don't use magic. OTher demons do tho.

 

[Antvasima]

You should ask some other staff members listed in the Doctor Who verse page to comment here.

 

[Antvasima]

Anyway, I suppose this seems to make sense, but I am the wrong person to ask.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

His weakness should be rephrased. It's only a thing because Of his chains sealing him.

Which I STILL think should be attributed to the white guardiab

 

[Damage3245]

This seems a bit too speculative.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

While it's not directly stated, all other demons in doctor who have magic and The Beast is a demon, on top of the docotr implying he has it. Maybe "Likely Magic"?

 

[Elizhaa]

From what I read, Likely Magic sounds like a good compromise that can work so I agree to it.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Also

If the beast and carnival queen can resist the time lords removing magic

Should the two resist power null?

 

[Elizhaa]

I think they would get since they are Great Old Ones (Doctor Who) because their powers aren't not based on magic.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

The great old ones profile shouldn't exist

That's like making a profile for "Gods (Saint Seiya)"

 

[ByAsura]

I agree with the Great Old Ones profile being removed, especially since Moon level is completely unjustified.

Likely Magic seems like a good compromise for me.

Neutral on power-null.

Would some of you mind commenting here?

 

[Antvasima]

I suppose that it seems fine if somebody removes the profile then. The pages that link to it also need to be updated though.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

With that being said, should there be a blog post for "Powers of Great Old Ones/Elder Gods of Doctor Who" maybe?

 

[ByAsura]

I can make that. I've already started on a Great Intelligence blog.

 

[Antvasima]

Thanks for helping out. I will check out the other thread.

 

[Antvasima]

Also, is somebody willing to remove the Great Old Ones (Doctor Who) page and to remove the links to it from the following pages:

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/index....arget=Great+Old+Ones+(Doctor+Who)&namespace=0

 

[ByAsura]

Elizhaa seems to have care of it.

 

[Elizhaa]

I wrote that I did before I guess my message didn't save, ah

 

[Antvasima]

Thank you for helping out. It is appreciated.