Madoka vs Unicron

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Might as well do this and see how it unfolds. Both 2-A of course. So who pounded Lavos harder?

Madoka Kaname: 7 (Homu Sweet Homu, MYHERO, Gojira1234, ABoogieYesSir, ZacharyGrossman273, Dragopentling, Cueio 2020)

Unicro: 0

Inconclusive: 0

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Inconclusive

It's a matter of "who decides to nuke the others concept first?"

 

[DMB_1]

Explain to me how does Unicron defend himself from the passives.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Nonexistent physiology, type 1 abstract, and type 5 Acausality means she needs to nuke his concept to win

Which she definitely can do, it's just that nothing else can win

 

[DMB_1]

Except for the fact she can affect beings with almost all of the things you listed?

And it sounds like Unicron has all of those things only in his 1-B form.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Revise the profile boi

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Bump.

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

>Non-Corporeal: Exists as an idea. The very representation of chaos and evil itself

Exist as an idea doesn't makes you nonexistence. Even if he does, Madoka can affects UKG with all of her abilities.

Madoka glares and he got erased.

 

[MYHERO]

Gimme a sec, I'm going to fight for Unicron, even if I'm wrong (which I probably am)

 

[MYHERO]

Who is a transformer nut around here?

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Who is a transformer nut around here?

Literally no one. At least, not on the level of other series

 

[MYHERO]

Shit. Figures. Ah crap how am I'm gonna make a case for Unicron here? It's almost like a stomp.

 

[KarmodF]

Is this 2-A Unicron isnt it?

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Yup, 2-A.

 

[MYHERO]

@KarmodF It is. But DMB 1 says that most of the abilities listed are for his 1-B.

 

[KarmodF]

Because 2-A Avatars can be revived everytime they want by 1-B Unicron as they are first priority until they devour the entire multiverse or kill beings that thread them.

 

[KarmodF]

No, his abilities are all shared by the avatars, only Immortality and some other abilities come from his Singularity afaik.

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

No, his abilities are all shared by the avatars, only Immortality and some other abilities come from his Singularity afaik.

Can you list it the abilities that belongs to his 1-B self?

 

[KarmodF]

AFAIK:

Type 10 Large Size

Type 8 Immortality (Kinda, as some avatars depend on the singularity to keep existing)

The strongest tech manip., absorption, empowerment and power bestowal.

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

If that's the case, Madoka gives him UKG treatment then. She erased him as well as put the law "No Unicorn" on the Multiverse so by the time the avatar got revived, the law will erased him back immediately.

This counts as Incap.

 

[MYHERO]

Yeah sorry uni.

Madoka FRA

 

[KarmodF]

He has resistance to Law Manip. tho

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

He has resistance to Law Manip. tho

This thing resists that that too and yet, she can't get out from Nonexistence Multiverse.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Seems stomps tbh

 

[KarmodF]

It would depend on the level of the ability really, I dont know where it comes from, the closest thing is Vector Prime creating laws to nullify concepts that empower or negates the Unicron, but they keep existing.

I think it would be better to ask Zachary about the resistamce as he is the one that added it If I remember correctly.

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

I will explains it this way instead:

Madoka erased all the witch all across Multiverse on conceptual level and put a law that basically says "No witches" to prevent another one to be born

UKG being not your average witch ignores that law and manifested in the Multiverse to rekt some *****.

Madoka can't let this happen and put a stronger Law to specifically counter UKG.

UKG is now chilling in the Nonexistence Multiverse cuz she cannot get out from there due to Madoka Law even though she has the necessary range to get out from there.

This doesn't includes the amount of Passive hax she got.

 

[MYHERO]

Madoka is just a Kirby Chan (Anime girl memes)

Cute and pink, but also crazy powerful.

 

[Gojira1234]

Madoka fra

 

[Kaltias]

Wut

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

>Non-Corporeal: Exists as an idea. The very representation of chaos and evil itself
Exist as an idea doesn't makes you nonexistence. If if he does, Madoka can affects UKG with all of her abilities.

I mean

You can be both a concept and be nothing

Although usually if someone is, it's because they're the concept of nothingness

 

[Gojira1234]

@Gojira It already ended. Hell it's in the profile already lol.

What? No it's not.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Yeah it is. It's in Sonic's loss and Madoka's victory.

What? This is Madoka vs Unicron.

 

[MYHERO]

@Gojira sorry dude big misunderstanding thought this was Sonic vs Madoka for god knows why XD

 

[MYHERO]

@Shadow Yeah I made an accident, sorry.

 

[Kaltias]

Clearly Madoka's Thread Manipulation is used to manipulate vs threads into victories for Madoka even if they aren't concluded yet

 

[MYHERO]

kek

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

>Non-Corporeal: Exists as an idea. The very representation of chaos and evil itself
Exist as an idea doesn't makes you nonexistence. If if he does, Madoka can affects UKG with all of her abilities.

I mean
You can be both a concept and be nothing.

Doesn't matter when Madoka affects UKG on daily basis.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

I know she can, I'm just saying

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Also, based on th other thread, seems like Uni doesn't give a damn about his avatar.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

I mean

There are direct avatars for some characters

But 1-B Unicron doesen't directly control his avatars IIRC