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Morgoth is Hypersonic+ by powerscaling due to being immensely faster than other characters who are casually Hypersonic+, but is likely far higher.UncleSpaceman said:Morgoth is only Hypersonic+, Madara is MHS+. Madara blitz's Morgoth, and Soul Sucks him with Ningendo, or takes him out with a Truthseeker Orb.
Tell that to danzo who was spamming that stuff in combat and also reality warping >>>Anything you mentioned to begin with excluding time stop a character not using an ability in combat does not mean he does not have said ability given that he's already displayed it.And a one trick pony ?...the dude never used it in combat as you said you don't even make sense...Faisal Shourov said:^Do you seriosuly believe Madara can warp reality in battle? If so he must be the worst reality warper in fiction since I don't remember him doing anything worthwhile. Izanagi is a 1 trick pony to save life, nothing fancy like molcule manipulation or time stop
Lol...Faisal Shourov said:^Do you seriosuly believe Madara can warp reality in battle? If so he must be the worst reality warper in fiction since I don't remember him doing anything worthwhile. Izanagi is a 1 trick pony to save life, nothing fancy like molcule manipulation or time stop
Are you serious or joking? Sentry would stomp any Naruto character with stats equalized. Can't believe you just said featless ying yang > moleculue manipulation. When has that ever been a combat ability?UncleSpaceman said:Lol...Faisal Shourov said:^Do you seriosuly believe Madara can warp reality in battle? If so he must be the worst reality warper in fiction since I don't remember him doing anything worthwhile. Izanagi is a 1 trick pony to save life, nothing fancy like molcule manipulation or time stop
Madara has Yin & Yang manipulation , Yin can create form from naught, Yang can instill life into form. That's much, much more fancy than molcule manipulation or time-stop.
In a strict combat sense, molecular manipulation is likely better though. If i could choose between creating form from nothing, and manipulating molecules, i'd choose creating form from nothing.Faisal Shourov said:Good lord :|
Weakened Morgoth and Madara are the same Tier though. Unless Morgoth has shown resistance to Soul Hax, i don't see why Ningendo would not work on Morgoth.Azathoth the Abyssal Idiot said:Morgoth is Hypersonic+ by powerscaling due to being immensely faster than other characters who are casually Hypersonic+, but is likely far higher.UncleSpaceman said:Morgoth is only Hypersonic+, Madara is MHS+. Madara blitz's Morgoth, and Soul Sucks him with Ningendo, or takes him out with a Truthseeker Orb.
As I already said, still like Ningendo and the TO won't do jack to Morgoth, as despite being drastically weakened, his essence is still that of a Valar.
Because he has. Like I said, his body is weakened, but his soul is still Universal+.UncleSpaceman said:Weakened Morgoth and Madara are the same Tier though. Unless Morgoth has shown resistance to Soul Hax, i don't see why Ningendo would not work on Morgoth.
Only applies to spiritual durability and hax resistance, as he can't flat out attack when he's just a soul in his weakened state (hence why he had to retreat). His physical body can still be destroyed.CHILLVIBEZZ said:His soul is universe+....he solos HST then...
He's taken hits from beings *much* stronger than Madara, like Tulkas and Mandos. Tulkas is physical strength incarnate and Mandos is fate. If Strength and Fate couldn't defeat Morgoth, Madara can't either. This takes place after Morgoth conspires to steal the Silm with the aide of Ungoliant.CHILLVIBEZZ said:Ah I see then destroying his physical body should be a win if that's the case which Madara can likely do given his immense speed advantage and Arsenal allowing him to incapacitate him and bypass his physical durability.
Is the second link from the novel?UncleSpaceman said:Technically, Madara should be able to use all jutsu's, and should have knowledge of how to use all jutsu. So Madara could hypothetically use all the haxed jutsu's in the series. To name one, Madara could trap Morgoth in an Izanami time-loop.