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Madara Uchiha vs Raiden Shogun

Which shield? Also the musou would likely be a lightning slash then the big ass sword in the domain since both have different name and it's kinda NLF to assume she can just boost the sword to atleast 50km just because she can do it a little bit.
 
Jackpact said:
Which shield? Also the musou would likely be a lightning slash then the big ass sword in the domain since both have different name and it's kinda NLF to assume she can just boost the sword to atleast 50km just because she can do it a little bit.
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The Electro Shield Raiden uses to block attacks
 
XXKINGXX69 said:
Is there a character that could even possibly EVEN TOUCH Madara Uchiha? Let alone defeat him. And I'm not talking about Edo Tensei Uchiha Madara. I'm not talking about Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara either. Hell, I'm not even talking about Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan and Rinnegan doujutsus (with the rikodou abilities and being capable of both Amateratsu and Tsukuyomi genjutsu), equipped with his Gunbai, a perfect Susano'o, control of the juubi and Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju's DNA implanted in him so he has mokuton kekkei genkai and can perform yin yang release ninjutsu while being an expert in kenjutsu and taijutsu. I'm also not talking about Kono Yo no Kyūseishu Futarime no Rikudō Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan (which is capable of Enton Amaterasu, Izanagi, Izanami and the Tsyukuyomi Genjutsu), his two original Rinnegan (which grant him Chikushōdō, Shuradō, Tendō, Ningendō, Jigokudō, Gakidō, Gedō, Banshō Ten'in, Chibaku Tensei, Shinra Tensei, Tengai Shinsei and Banbutsu Sōzō) and a third Tomoe Rinnegan on his forehead, capable of using Katon, Fūton, Raiton, Doton, Suiton, Mokuton, Ranton, Inton, Yōton and even Onmyōton Jutsu, equipped with his Gunbai(capable of using Uchihagaeshi) and a Shakujō because he is a master in kenjutsu and taijutsu, a perfect Susano'o (that can use Yasaka no Magatama ), control of both the Juubi and the Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju's DNA and face implanted on his chest, his four Rinbo Hengoku Clones guarding him and nine Gudōdama floating behind him AFTER he absorbed Senjutsu from the First Hokage, entered Rikudō Senjutsu Mode, cast Mugen Tsukuyomi on everybody and used Shin: Jukai Kōtan so he can use their Chakra while they are under Genjutsu. I'm definitely NOT Talking about sagemode sage of the six paths Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Super Saiyan 4 Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan, Rinnegan, Mystic Eyes of Death Perception, and Geass doujutsus, equipped with Shining Trapezohedron while casting Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann as his Susanoo, controlling the Gold Experience Requiem stand, having become the original vampire after Alucard, able to tap into the speedforce, wearing the Kamen Rider Black RX suit and Gedou Mazou, with Hashirama Senju's DNA implanted in him so he has mokuton kekkei genkai and can perform yin yang release ninjutsu while being an expert in kenjutsu and taijutsu and having eaten Popeye's spinach. I'm talking about sagemode sage of the six paths Juubi Jinchuuriki Gedou Rinne Tensei Legendary Super Saiyan 4 Uchiha Madara with the Eternal Mangekyou Sharingan, Rinnegan, Mystic Eyes of Death Perception, and Geass doujutsus, equipped with his Shining Trapezohedron while casting Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann as his Susanoo, controlling the Gold Experience Requiem stand, having become the original vampire after having absorbed Alucard as well as a God Hand, able to tap into the speedforce, wearing the Kamen Rider Black RX suit, with Kryptonian DNA implanted in him and having eaten Popeye's spinach while possessing quantum powers like Dr. Manhattan and having mastered Hokuto Shinken.
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Wtf
 
TheGreatJedi13 said:
tbh we're not really sure if she was at base when she cut Orobashi. all the lore says she did it so with musuo no hitotachi which has many versions. but since the one from the Orobashi is pretty massive then its likely a big cut shown from her boss fight
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Musuo no Hitotachi is her ultimate sword technique in which she uses in Base, we don't know the name of the slash she uses in her Baleful Shadowlord form
But her technique Musuo no Hitotachi is shown in both the First Raiden boss fights and the Puppet boss fights separately from her Baleful Shadowlord form
The Orabashi cutscene didn't show Ei taking that form either
We only know it as "The Final Calamity" and she doesn't notabky use Musuo no Hitotachi in that form but there is one move that looks similar to what she would likely have used to create that gorge
 
Speaking of Final Calamity, how would Madara deal with her Attacking from her Plane and Space cutting him while Briefly Stopping time to get the hit in
 
Shey said:
Speaking of Final Calamity, how would Madara deal with her Attacking from her Plane and Space cutting him while Briefly Stopping time to get the hit in
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Does she start with this? If so, its probably a stomp because its just a 1 shot through cutting space
 
Madara would be willing to use genjutsu, sometimes as a starting move, but at least in the midst of battle so I'm leaning towards him for now. Along with his own slicing which can cut through mountains just by unsheathing his sword
 
XXKINGXX69 said:
Madara would be willing to use genjutsu, sometimes as a starting move, but at least in the midst of battle so I'm leaning towards him for now. Along with his own slicing which can cut through mountains just by unsheathing his sword
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Revived Madara does not have eyes, he can't genjutsu unless I'm missing something and the Raiden Shogun is a puppet while Ei sits in her plane of Euthymia within her tachi so it won't be a problem in the first place
Also she has a Shield that can greatly reduce attack impact
 
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speedster352 said:
Yes limbo gg they have the LS advantage so limbo plus sealing or chibaku tensei is gg
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They can just transform into lightning to break out of grappling + She can escape her plane and warp out elsewhere akin to teleportation, is Chibaku Tensei even IC for This Madara?
 
Shey said:
They can just transform into lightning to break out of grappling + She can escape her plane and warp out elsewhere akin to teleportation, is Chibaku Tensei even IC for This Madara?
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Limbo clones aren't able to be perceived or touched though, so Madara can repeatedly attack her with her having no defence.
Madara hasn't really used much of the Rinnegan abilities in this key so not really.
 
Also, Madara has sage mode in that key, so he should be able to sense her whereabouts throughout the battle.
 
Ratherlarge said:
Limbo clones aren't able to be perceived or touched though, so Madara can repeatedly attack her with her having no defence.
Madara hasn't really used much of the Rinnegan abilities in this key so not really.
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I didn't say anything about her touching them
He'd have to deal with the side effects of massive concentration of elemental energy that emanate from her, and her attacks which could hinder him mentally

She can also already cut space with her sword too, even a single strike would be unstoppable and likely fatal
 
Shey said:
I didn't say anything about her touching them
He'd have to deal with the side effects of massive concentration of elemental energy that emanate from her, and her attacks which could hinder him mentally

She can also already cut space with her sword too, even a single strike would be unstoppable and likely fatal
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True, but Limbo can also be used as a defence against her attacks. And btw doesn't elemental energy only cause harm after prolonged exposure to the source?

Also Raiden would have trouble landing a hit due to Madara's precognition, shared senses with his clones and sage mode.
 
Ratherlarge said:
True, but Limbo can also be used as a defence against her attacks. And btw doesn't elemental energy only cause harm after prolonged exposure to the source?
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Raidens musuo no hitotachi has so much elemental energy even vision users who resist prolonged exposure got fear hax and had headache by simply witnessing it that travelers vision(eyesight vision not vision vision) got distorted as well. So no resistance to it will probably suffer the worst effect to it instantly
 
Ratherlarge said:
True, but Limbo can also be used as a defence against her attacks. And btw doesn't elemental energy only cause harm after prolonged exposure to the source?
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If they can defend against space cutting strikes then yes.
That's elemental energy from Smaragdus Jadeite, Archon elemental energy is far more concentrated and the effects were immediately noticeable on the Traveler who normally resists the effects from Smaragdus Jadeite.
Ratherlarge said:
Also Raiden would have trouble landing a hit due to Madara's precognition, shared senses with his clones and sage mode.
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Those could pose a large issue, but Sha get in a decisive hit with her Musuo no Hitotachi time stop
 
TheGreatJedi13 said:
Raidens musuo no hitotachi has so much elemental energy even vision users who resist prolonged exposure got fear hax and had headache by simply witnessing it that travelers vision(eyesight vision not vision vision) got distorted as well. So no resistance to it will probably suffer the worst effect to it instantly
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Shey said:
That's elemental energy from Smaragdus Jadeite, Archon elemental energy is far more concentrated and the effects were immediately noticeable on the Traveler who normally resists the effects from Smaragdus Jadeite.
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Madara actually has resistance to fear manipulation, so he should be able to resist the effects of the elemental energy. He also has advanced eye sight and he also doesn't need vision (Not Genshin) to fight.

Shey said:
If they can defend against space cutting strikes then yes.
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Limbo clones shouldn't be affected since it resides in a different dimension.
Shey said:
Those could pose a large issue, but Sha get in a decisive hit with her Musuo no Hitotachi time stop
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Time stop only happens later in the fight in character right? And besides Madara might have some sort of resistance to time stop (scaling from Sasuke's Rinnegan). If he gets hit, he will die without Limbo tho.
 
he can resist fear but not the disease effect of the elemental energy that's for sure. which can affect his focus and performance at least since it can cause even personality changes and sometimes delusional insanity.
 
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