Lvl up "Tokyo Ghoul"

[NikHelton]

First I'll take a borrowed scaling of the times of Tokyo Ghoul to pick up the speed each character of the universe.

Kaneki height = 1.7 meters;

Kaneki length of the legs = 0,255 meter;

Floor unit height = 1.7 / 4 = 0.425 meters;

Distance between Kaneki and lightning= 0.5 meters;

Lightning speed (take the value above the "slow" lightning): ~ 5 000 km / sec = 5 000 000 m / sec;

Timing= 0,5 / 5 000 000= 1 × 10^-7 seconds;

The distance that Kaneki overcame= 1.7 meters.


By plugging in S= D/T:

Ken Kaneki's speed= 1.7 / 1 × 10^-7= 17 000 000 m / s. Mach 51 288 (5.3% of the speed of light)

Sub-relativistic+

Not bad.


As we can see-this is quite powerful, given that in TG:Re any character of the middle-high tier is comparable to Kaneki times of the first part.

Now comes the scaling for the battle with Arima:

The situation is this - Arima shoots Narukami lightning at Yomo. Renji looks death straight in the eye, but at the last moment Kaneki appears, covering Yomo kagune.

Using the standards of proportions we get that the height of a person is 8 goals. Growth Yomo on profile will total 182 cm.

The height of the head:182 / 8= of 22.75 ~ 28 cm;
Head length: 148 pixels;
Distance between Yomo and lightning: 314 pixels;

Distance: 314 / 148/ 28=314 / 5,3 = 59 ~ 60 cm.




I note that on this frame and the frame shown before next to Yomo no one was. So Ken covered the distance at the last minute. Besides, judging by the position of his hands, he came from the left side.




• Since Yomo has bent over on this page I will venture to assume that its height is 1.5 m.

150 centimeters = 25 pixels;
1 pixel = 6 cm;

Assume that Kaneki is on the frame, but covered with a flash of lightning:

Distance between Yomo and flash: 160 pixels;
Distance: 160*6=960 centimeters= 9.6 meters.





Since we do not know the exact speed of lightning, then I have 3 options from which we will proceed:

• Low-average lightning speed (based on previous scaling): 5 000 000 m / sec;
• Average lightning speed (200k+140k/2): 70 010 000 m / s;
• High lightning speed: 140 000 000 m / sec.

1)Timeframe = 0,6 / 5 000 000 = 1,2 × 10^-7 seconds;
The distance that Kaneki covered = 9.6 meters;
Kaneki speed: 9,6 / 1,2 × 10^-7 = 2 880 000 m / sec. Mach 347 553. (38% speed of light)

2)Timeframe = 0,6 / 70 010 000 = 8,6 × 10^-9;
The distance that Kaneki covered = 9.6 meters;
Kaneki speed: 9,6 / 8,6 ├ù 10^-9 = 1ÔÇë116ÔÇë279ÔÇë069 m / sec. Mach 3 367 764. (x3,72 Speed of Light)

3)Timeframe = 0,6 / 140 000 000 = 4,28571429 ├ù 10ÔêÆ9;
The distance that Kaneki covered = 9.6 meters;
Kaneki speed: 9,6 / 4,28571429 ├ù 10ÔêÆ9 = 5ÔÇë581ÔÇë395ÔÇë348 m / sec. Mach 6 735 528. (x7,45 Speed of Light)

Subtotal:

1)Relativistic+

2)FTL

3)FTL

Sounds crazy, but very cool

Now let's talk about the destructive potential:

1)In Cochlea Eto one attack destroyed the giant compactor, that was not difficult




The compactor made of steel, so set its weight.

For a start, the dossier Furuta height is 175 centimeters.
Furuta height = 25 pixels.
1 pixel = 7 centimeters.
Height of area destroyed = 358 pixel = 25 meters
The diameter of each link is 4 meters. They are 3 in a row, so the width of the compactor = 12 meters
Compactor length = 1364 pixels = 95 meters.

Take the density of steel 7700 kg per meter 3. Receive:

V= 25*12*95 = 28 500m3
M = 28 500*7 700 = 219 450 000 kg

The energy to lift this weight is equal to:

E = two-handed = 219 450 000 * 9,8 * 25 = 53765250000 Joel.

53765250000 joules ~ 5,4 * 10 ^ 10 = LVL city block

Since Eto suffered this attack without harm to itself, I believe that its durability is at the same level.

8-B.

2) Kaneki "Black Ripper" breaks kakuja Eto in one attack Kaneki Post-Cochlea is stronger than Kaneki "Black Ripper"

Kaneki (Post-Cochlea) can't get through Amon kakuja

Seido get through Amon kakuja several times and even completely destroys armor

Amon and Seido fight on an equal footing in this battle.

Many characters are worth lvl up to 8-B

3)I believe that all the top characters drawn incorrectly and should look approximately so:

Kaneki
Furuta.
Arima
Eto
Seydo
Amo
Yoshimura.


Roma can not be a top tier, because it alone defeated Urie, which is on the list an order of magnitude lower. SSS-rank doesn't make it comparable to the Eto because Roma kept Kuroiwa using a replica of the sword, while with the Eto could not handle the crowd of investigators in Arata.


4)

Let's move on to Kaneki's best achievement. While in the oviduct, Ken collided with kagune monsters. After they captured him, he destroyed them with a single attack.





Kaneki height = 170 centimeters;
The tentacle grabbed half of his body. The upper part of the body of Kaneko ~ 85 cm
Body height = 19 pixels.
85 / 19 ~ 4.5 cm per pixel.
Tentacle diameter = 116 pixels = 5.2 m.
All tentacles are approximately equal in size.
Left tentacle length = 28 meters.
Right tentacle length = 58 meters.
Suppose that the length of the remaining tentacles = 40 meters.

The Kaneko destroyed all the tentacles at once, I suggest to lay down their lengths and find the volume:

V (cylinder) = nR2h
V = (58+28+40+40+40) * 2,6 * 2,6 * 3,14 = 4 373 m3 = 4 373 000 000 cm3.

Grinding of steel = 1000 j / cm3

E = 4 373 000 000 * 1000 = 4,3726384 × 10^12 j = small town.

Low 7-C lvl.

 

[Dziga]

I'm not a calc expert but I'm pretty sure there's something really wrong here.

 

[NikHelton]

I'm not a calc expert but I'm pretty sure there's something really wrong here.

Sorry, just noticed the error, but already fixed it.

 

[Dziga]

Also for calculations, you should make them in a blog and then ask them to be evaluated here.

 

[Zaratthustra]

Wait a moment, when was it ever said that it was real lightning or did I miss something?

 

[NikHelton]

Wait a moment, when was it ever said that it was real lightning or did I miss something?

Why not? Lightning Yomo showed all the same properties as ordinary lightning. And Narukami and kagune Renji have one thing origins. I see no reason to think of it as "not lightning."

 

[Zaratthustra]

Wait a moment, when was it ever said that it was real lightning or did I miss something?

Why not? Lightning Yomo showed all the same properties as ordinary lightning. And Narukami and kagune Renji have one thing origins. I see no reason to think of it as "not lightning."

Show scans/statements/feats better concluded not only one page because it can be an outliner or just look like it. Did it every say it has the same proprieties of real lightning? Is that weapon being able to manipulate real electricity or electromagnetism in general, generating ozone or causing electrolysis? Did it show concreate lightning speed?

 

[NikHelton]

Wait a moment, when was it ever said that it was real lightning or did I miss something?

Why not? Lightning Yomo showed all the same properties as ordinary lightning. And Narukami and kagune Renji have one thing origins. I see no reason to think of it as "not lightning."

Show scans/statements/feats better concluded not only one page because it can be an outliner or just look like it. Did it every say it has the same proprieties of real lightning? Is that weapon being able to manipulate real electricity or electromagnetism in general, generating ozone or causing electrolysis? Did it show concreate lightning speed?

Narukami shells showed properties inherent in real lightning: conductivity on water and metal, making muscles kakuja-ghouls of the affected, causing burns. It seems to be according to the rules, if "lightning" showed several properties of real lightning and not show anything unnatural, it can be considered correct.

 

[Zaratthustra]

Wait a moment, when was it ever said that it was real lightning or did I miss something?

Why not? Lightning Yomo showed all the same properties as ordinary lightning. And Narukami and kagune Renji have one thing origins. I see no reason to think of it as "not lightning."

Show scans/statements/feats better concluded not only one page because it can be an outliner or just look like it. Did it every say it has the same proprieties of real lightning? Is that weapon being able to manipulate real electricity or electromagnetism in general, generating ozone or causing electrolysis? Did it show concreate lightning speed?

Narukami shells showed properties inherent in real lightning: conductivity on water and metal, making muscles kakuja-ghouls of the affected, causing burns. It seems to be according to the rules, if "lightning" showed several properties of real lightning and not show anything unnatural, it can be considered correct.

Bring the scans for feats then you can name it facts first time, i won't search for them. If is true and they are accepted then good, I really like Tokyo Ghoul but it's something else to jump from supersonic to 5.4% of c or even x7.4 c.

 

[NikHelton]

Bring the scans for feats then you can name it facts first time, i won't search for them. If is true and they are accepted then good, I really like Tokyo Ghoul but it's something else to jump from supersonic to 5.4% of c or even x7.4 c.

Here are some examples

 

[Zaratthustra]

Still not enough. It's never stated that it's real lightning or has the speed of it. That's a weapon (Quinque - Narukami exactly), powerful ukaku quinque that can condense Rc cells in the form of bolts of lightning. So it's source are the Rc cells.

1. What are Rc Cells?

Rc (Red Children) cells (Rcþ┤░Þâ×, Rc saibō) are certain cells that exist only in the story of Tokyo Ghoul. The origin of the name comes from how each individual cell looks like a curled up fetus. They exist in both humans and ghouls. They flow like blood but can become as solid as teeth, and could be called "liquid muscles". Typically, a ghoul stocks Rc cells by eating people. Within the body, the Rc cells are concentrated and stored in a kakuhou. The kagune is formed by Rc cells that have been released from a kakuhou and have pierced through the skin.

Rc cells are the nutrients ghouls need to ingest

2. How does it work?

Rc cells flow through specialized Rc cell vessels. They spread from the kakuhou and permit the body to produce a kagune to the outside. The bodily capabilities can increase as much as the number of vessel increases. Vessels grow and spread throughout the body, stimulated through repeated injury and Regenerationn. Through this process, half-ghouls and quinx become stronger to the degree they're hurt. It is unclear if normal ghouls can become stronger this way, too.

So they are some type of cells like nerves that exist on ghoul bodies like the normal nerves.

3. What is Quinque?

A quinque (Òé»ÒéñÒâ│Òé▒, kuinke) is a weapon manufactured from a ghoul's kakuhou used by CCG ghoul investigators. Invented by Adam Gehner and Yoshiu Washuu, quinque emit electrical signals that stimulate the kakuhou to release and control it. They can be made into some type of melee or ranged weapon, but most retain a few characteristics from the original kagune. In contrast to kagune, quinque cannot change shape nor store or absorb Rc cells other than what was harvested from the ghoul it was made from.

-"emit electrical signals that stimulate"

4. Let's look at Arima's Quinque and Hairu.

Narukami (ÒâèÒâ½Òé½Òâƒ, Narukami) is an ukaku-type quinque. It discharges condensed Rc cells just like lightning bolts. Possessing a tracking function, evasion of the bolts is next to impossible. After mode change, it possesses durability sufficient to cut cleanly through one of the One-Eyed Owl's appendages.

Hmm, what do we see "like-lightning bolts".

T-Human (T-ÒâÆÒâÑÒâ╝Òâ×Òâ│, T─½ Hyüma) is an ukaku quinque that was wielded by Hairu Ihei. It takes the form of three satellite panels attached to a rapier handle.

It can fire either a concentrated or dispersed blast of condensed Rc cells.

Hmm, nothing about it being a lightning bolt, but we can see then this:

• T-Human, a quinque formerly used by Hairu Ihei, greatly resembles Narukami as it fires electric bolts in a similar fashion.
• Lightning-like bolts produced by Renji Yomo's and Touka Kirishima's kagune, are similar to Narukami's ability.

Again that "Lightning-like bolts". It's never said anything about it being real Lightning.

Look at all of this you can see the next few things:

- Quinques are made by using electric shocks to simulate nerves and thus make a Kagune work like it was controlled by a brain.

- Quinques are made from Rc Cell so they act like them.

- Rc-cells are just amping up and mimicking physical functions in a human body.

-Electricity: the heart nodes ability to produce electric shocks to make the heart beat and send a signal through the nerves.

Perfect sense.... since RC-cells have been seen mimicking and replicating the functions of eyeballs, mouths, vocal cords and limbs with no problem, this is no different.

- The bolts from Quinque rip holes in the ground, tear through flesh and physically push objects and break objects. They have none of the characteristic behavior of electrostatic discharge. (There are some characteristic but only once or twice that showed them and it was only through water but only once).

- The Shoots are not lightning, but condensed RC bolts, but not electricity.

Now let's look at something else.

"The nervous system is responsible for transmitting impulses throughout the body. The function of our bodies throughout our lives are primarily supported by the nervous system. If not for the nervous system we will not be able to control our muscles, and our tissues and organs will no longer be able to function. Sense organs provide the nervous system with information about the environment through such senses as sight hearing, smell, taste, touch, pressure, and pain. Nerves are connected throughout the body leading up to the brain. They carry the information through the body in the form of electrochemical signals called impulses. These signals travel from the brain to the spinal cord, through the nerves to the organs, tissues, and muscles.

The speed of a nerve impulse varies with the type of nerve impulse the nervous system is sending. Some signals such as those for muscle position, travel at speeds up to 119m/s. Nerve impulses such as pain signals travel slower at 0.61m/s. Touch signals travel at speeds of 76.2m/s. If you are reading this at this moment and thinking at the same time, which some people may have trouble with, thought signals are traveling at speeds ranging between 20 and 30 meters per second."

David Parizh -- 2002

Conclusion

They act and are nerves (Rc cells) thanks to their cells vessels and proprieties. It never said/stated that the weapon uses Real Lightning or have its full characteristics, just "Lightning-like bolts". The weapons are made from those cells that act like the nerves that replicate the other functions of organs/limbs/eyeballs, etc.

 

[NikHelton]

Still not enough. It's never stated that it's real lightning or has the speed of it. That's a weapon (Quinque - Narukami exactly), powerful ukaku quinque that can condense Rc cells in the form of bolts of lightning. So it's source are the Rc cells.
1. What are Rc Cells?

Rc (Red Children) cells (Rcþ┤░Þâ×, Rc saibō) are certain cells that exist only in the story of Tokyo Ghoul. The origin of the name comes from how each individual cell looks like a curled up fetus. They exist in both humans and ghouls. They flow like blood but can become as solid as teeth, and could be called "liquid muscles". Typically, a ghoul stocks Rc cells by eating people. Within the body, the Rc cells are concentrated and stored in a kakuhou. The kagune is formed by Rc cells that have been released from a kakuhou and have pierced through the skin.

Rc cells are the nutrients ghouls need to ingest

2. How does it work?

Rc cells flow through specialized Rc cell vessels. They spread from the kakuhou and permit the body to produce a kagune to the outside. The bodily capabilities can increase as much as the number of vessel increases. Vessels grow and spread throughout the body, stimulated through repeated injury and Regenerationn. Through this process, half-ghouls and quinx become stronger to the degree they're hurt. It is unclear if normal ghouls can become stronger this way, too.

So they are some type of cells like nerves that exist on ghoul bodies like the normal nerves.

3. What is Quinque?

A quinque (Òé»ÒéñÒâ│Òé▒, kuinke) is a weapon manufactured from a ghoul's kakuhou used by CCG ghoul investigators. Invented by Adam Gehner and Yoshiu Washuu, quinque emit electrical signals that stimulate the kakuhou to release and control it. They can be made into some type of melee or ranged weapon, but most retain a few characteristics from the original kagune. In contrast to kagune, quinque cannot change shape nor store or absorb Rc cells other than what was harvested from the ghoul it was made from.

-"emit electrical signals that stimulate"

4. Let's look at Arima's Quinque and Hairu.

Narukami (ÒâèÒâ½Òé½Òâƒ, Narukami) is an ukaku-type quinque. It discharges condensed Rc cells just like lightning bolts. Possessing a tracking function, evasion of the bolts is next to impossible. After mode change, it possesses durability sufficient to cut cleanly through one of the One-Eyed Owl's appendages.

Hmm, what do we see "like-lightning bolts".

T-Human (T-ÒâÆÒâÑÒâ╝Òâ×Òâ│, T─½ Hyüma) is an ukaku quinque that was wielded by Hairu Ihei. It takes the form of three satellite panels attached to a rapier handle.

It can fire either a concentrated or dispersed blast of condensed Rc cells.

Hmm, nothing about it being a lightning bolt, but we can see then this:

• T-Human, a quinque formerly used by Hairu Ihei, greatly resembles Narukami as it fires electric bolts in a similar fashion.
• Lightning-like bolts produced by Renji Yomo's and Touka Kirishima's kagune, are similar to Narukami's ability.

Again that "Lightning-like bolts". It's never said anything about it being real Lightning.

Look at all of this you can see the next few things:

- Quinques are made by using electric shocks to simulate nerves and thus make a Kagune work like it was controlled by a brain.

- Quinques are made from Rc Cell so they act like them.

- Rc-cells are just amping up and mimicking physical functions in a human body.

-Electricity: the heart nodes ability to produce electric shocks to make the heart beat and send a signal through the nerves.

Perfect sense.... since RC-cells have been seen mimicking and replicating the functions of eyeballs, mouths, vocal cords and limbs with no problem, this is no different.

- The bolts from Quinque rip holes in the ground, tear through flesh and physically push objects and break objects. They have none of the characteristic behavior of electrostatic discharge. (There are some characteristic but only once or twice that showed them and it was only through water but only once).

- The Shoots are not lightning, but condensed RC bolts, but not electricity.

Now let's look at something else.

"The nervous system is responsible for transmitting impulses throughout the body. The function of our bodies throughout our lives are primarily supported by the nervous system. If not for the nervous system we will not be able to control our muscles, and our tissues and organs will no longer be able to function. Sense organs provide the nervous system with information about the environment through such senses as sight hearing, smell, taste, touch, pressure, and pain. Nerves are connected throughout the body leading up to the brain. They carry the information through the body in the form of electrochemical signals called impulses. These signals travel from the brain to the spinal cord, through the nerves to the organs, tissues, and muscles.

The speed of a nerve impulse varies with the type of nerve impulse the nervous system is sending. Some signals such as those for muscle position, travel at speeds up to 119m/s. Nerve impulses such as pain signals travel slower at 0.61m/s. Touch signals travel at speeds of 76.2m/s. If you are reading this at this moment and thinking at the same time, which some people may have trouble with, thought signals are traveling at speeds ranging between 20 and 30 meters per second."

David Parizh -- 2002

Conclusion

They act and are nerves (Rc cells) thanks to their cells vessels and proprieties. It never said/stated that the weapon uses Real Lightning or have its full characteristics, just "Lightning-like bolts". The weapons are made from those cells that act like the nerves that replicate the other functions of organs/limbs/eyeballs, etc.

Don't see the point as something to underestimate properties kagune. In addition to the above you pyrokinesis Tatara we have healing Niko, clones Donato and remote control of living beings with sound.
The same Tatara flame does not necessarily consist of RC cells. It's not listed anywhere. It is known only that because of the high density of kagune there is a flame. It is possible that somewhere in kakuho gas is generated.
Kagune Yomo and" Narukami " can be quite arranged, as well as the electric organs of the eel.
In addition, lightning is an electric spark discharge, which narikami shells are. I do not know, maybe they correspond to the "slow" lightning, but that's something

 

[NikHelton]

Conclusion

They act and are nerves (Rc cells) thanks to their cells vessels and proprieties. It never said/stated that the weapon uses Real Lightning or have its full characteristics, just "Lightning-like bolts". The weapons are made from those cells that act like the nerves that replicate the other functions of organs/limbs/eyeballs, etc.

Okay, what do you think about it? https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:NikHelton/Hypersonic_in_"Tokyo_Ghoul"

 

[NikHelton]

Hey, dude

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Someone call Monarch to come here.

 

[NikHelton]

I will be glad to see you in this battle https://vsbattles.com/vsbattles/2938822