Epsilon_R
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This is where he voted, and he gave a long paragraph as to why in a previous post
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Luck Voltia vs Roronoa Zoro
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Zoro: 7 MonkeyOflife, Ronin119, StrawHatArslan, Popted2, Chawe2i, Rez, AnosVoldigoad314
Luck: 4 Epsilon_R, Bernkastelll, theultimate5105, Kazuma_kuwabara
Loyd hasn't voted I don't think
Luck: 4 Epsilon_R, Bernkastelll, theultimate5105, Kazuma_kuwabara
Loyd hasn't voted I don't think
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7-5 then?
Epsilon_R
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how long until grace ends?
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I mean I don’t see much Luck could do with his attacks... the only thing he has is maybe speed over Zoro
Rez
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We actually do
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As a result, winning a speed equalized match against a faster opponent due to a speed boost so large that it blitzes the opponent will not be added.
Kazuma_kuwabara
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Epsilon_R
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You mean that? Luck is faster so he can blitz with amps, it's actually Zoro who can't do thatWe actually do
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The VS Battles Wiki is mainly a site that attempts to index the statistics of characters across many different fictional franchises. However, as the site name implies, we also allow our members to pit fictional characters against each other in hypothetical matchups for entertainment purposes...
As a result, winning a speed equalized match against a faster opponent due to a speed boost so large that it blitzes the opponent will not be added.
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Voting Zoro fra.
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Still say Zoro FRA, zoro's arguments are much better executed, especially on lordginsama's part.
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Faster and blitzing aren't the same thing, and Zoro has fought against opponents that could escape his vision such as Kaku, who's also a Juken based swordsman, Juken being Swordsmanship that relies on speed, the exact opposite of Zoro’s own sword play so Kaku had the advantage in that regard. His Swordsmanship was swifter and could amp his speed, Zoro still kept up.
Unless Luck magically gets 4x faster than Zoro he should be able to keep up.
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for alway
Epsilon_R
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That's way after Alabasta so we don't use it. And again, that doesn't answer my question. How is Zoro supposed to close the gap between his and Luck when he's slower?
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Dodge... With Reactive Power Level, Extrasensory Perception, Information Analysis, Minor Adaptation, Acrobatics and Analytical Prediction ... That lightning orb thing doesn't move at lightning speed since it's not real lightning
Epsilon_R
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Zoro's RPL isn't speed based...
ESP won't make him faster, neither will Information Analysis
This version of Zoro doesn't even have Adaptation...
Acrobatics can only take you so far when the attack is too fast for you
Luck can tag people with precog, why would Zoro's Analytical Prediction help here?
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This is what he said before linkWhy is it not true? if the characters are with speed equal, speed amps makes them faster, thats a logic
he was even called as ''too slow'', do u want this scan or the Vetto one?
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Why not? ESP and Information Analysis will help him dodge easier... As well as Acrobatics and attack isn't much faster then zoro... It isn't even faster.. And enhanced senses...
Epsilon_R
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Magic Attributes in Black Clover is based of the real elements. How does it matter anyway?
Epsilon_R
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Epsilon_R
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How is that supposed to prove the attacks are slower?
The first one was when Luck's speed was weakened while the other two, Luck is doing a distraction so that Asta takes him off guard
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Ain't no way.. You are disagreeing... Can you Prove that they are as fast as luck? Also this is luck before getting weakened
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All you have done is hype up lucks ability and all of them have been lies or wrongs...
Epsilon_R
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You're the one that claimed the attacks were slower...It's up to you to prove they are slower than Luck, not me to prove they are as fast as him
And what this panel is supposed to prove exactly???
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The orb lightning didn't hit luck's opponent... while luck weakened and while not weakend was called fast and hit him...
Epsilon_R
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When he was called fast while being weakened, he already adapted to his opponent's speed, I literally told you before
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That was when he wasn't weakend... The opponent says his speed and accuracy risen but luck still needed to use a distraction to hit him
Epsilon_R
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All you did was make weird claims.
Zoro starting with Shishi Sonson because he starts with it later arcs and his character didn't change throughout the series,
Zoro cutting Lightning as long as he wishes it
Zoro somehow dodging attacks that are faster than him because of ESP and Information Analysis and so on ...
So let's not play that game and focus on the actual debate
Epsilon_R
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The only thing questionable is
Zoro cutting Lightning as long as he wishes it
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Luck isn't moving FTE to Zoro, he might be faster yeah that's game but blitzing? Unless his speed amp is over 4x he isn't blitzing Zoro.
Epsilon_R
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He can move so fast that characters comparable to him don't have the time to react, why would Zoro be different here?
Epsilon_R
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Epsilon_R
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I didn't know about that but according to VS Thread Rules
"The combat speed of that faster character is assumed to be equalized to the combat speed of the slower character. Every other speed the faster character has is reduced by the same multiplier. This includes the speed of any attacks, projectiles, reactions, perception, flight etc."
"The combat speed of that faster character is assumed to be equalized to the combat speed of the slower character. Every other speed the faster character has is reduced by the same multiplier. This includes the speed of any attacks, projectiles, reactions, perception, flight etc."
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Didn't change anything... Actually it got worse for luck...
