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Lucifero vs white diamond

Yeah no. nlf would be us saying she can resistance several tiers or extra dimensional lifting strength. We're simply saying a small jump from high end class g to class t is not in anyway a nlf. It's as simple as saying someone who's high into town lvl could do some harm to a large town lvl character or the fact people irl can literally lift things slightly above their normal limit due to being already close to it like if someones max lifting is 200lbs but you add 20 they'd probably somewhat struggle but wouldn't be crushed.
 
Yeah no. nlf would be us saying she can resistance several tiers or extra dimensional lifting strength. We're simply saying a small jump from high end class g to class t is not in anyway a nlf. It's as simple as saying someone who's high into town lvl could do some harm to a large town lvl character or the fact people irl can literally lift things slightly above their normal limit due to being already close to it like if someones max lifting is 200lbs but you add 20 they'd probably somewhat struggle but wouldn't be crushed.
No. It doesn’t have to be extradimensional before NLF is applied. For example, claiming Large Star level Krillin doesn’t stomp Saitama because he upscales from star level.

You’re basically claiming white Diamond’s upscale from low end Class G can take 3 more zeros to even match Lucifero who upscales from Class T that is above baseline without going full power IN HIS INCOMPLETE MANIFESTATION. FURTHER UPSCALING AT FULL POWER. FURTHER WHEN FULLY MANIFESTED AND FURTHER YET AGAIN WHEN FULLY MANIFESTED AND AT FULL POWER.


Explain what resistance to gravity manipulation means? I’ll also ask in the Q&A, does it just nullify gravity? If it’s based on force then resistance to gravity manipulation shouldn’t exist as an ability. LS takes care of that.
 
Explain what resistance to gravity manipulation means? I’ll also ask in the Q&A, does it just nullify gravity? If it’s based on force then resistance to gravity manipulation shouldn’t exist as an ability. LS takes care of that.
Pretty much biologically gems are incapable of being effected by shifts in gravity because their bodies automatically shift to accommodate it, it has nothing to do with how strong or weak that gravity is, a great example was Steven jumping higher than normal in the moon, Amethyst trying the same thing, and just falling face flat as if she was on Earth.
 
Pretty much biologically gems are incapable of being effected by shifts in gravity because their bodies automatically shift to accommodate it, it has nothing to do with how strong or weak that gravity is, a great example was Steven jumping higher than normal in the moon, Amethyst trying the same thing, and just falling face flat as if she was on Earth.
Isn’t your example density manipulation? I feel like resistance to gravity manipulation is redundant.
 
Isn’t your example density manipulation? I feel like resistance to gravity manipulation is redundant.
Eh, maybe, but it helps to show quickly enough that Gravity changing, being strengthened, weakened, etc., has no usefulness on those with Gem Physiology
 
So it doesn’t matter if they have never faced gravity far greater that their ability?
No, because the force of the gravity is not a relevant factor in their ability to resist shifts in gravity

Think of it this way Pearl once described it as (paraphrasing from memory here) “Configuring Mass based on Gravity and Air Pressure” so Gem’s gravity shenanigans probably work mathematically, some formula involving Gravity and Air pressure to figure out the mass needed to have the desired, constant weight. This is further backed up by these abilities not exactly working exactly as intended when the ship the Crystal Gems were in broke the laws of physics and whatnot in that episode. So there’s not really an ability to overtax with extreme levels of gravity. Unless you can overtax physics, which is pretty much what that ship did
 
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