Lucifero vs white diamond

[speedster352]

Lucifero vs White Diamond
SBA
Speed equalized

 

[Pikaman]

Ok, how does Lucifero’s EE work? If it’s standard and in character he stomps no question

 

[speedster352]

Ok, how does Lucifero’s EE work? If it’s standard and in character he stomps no question

Black hole and he starts off with presence of the demon king you need class T LS for it

 

[theultimate5105]

I mean White Diamond won't be able to move because of presence of the demon king
He does not start off with Black hole which is his EE

 

[Pikaman]

Well White’s LS is Class G but if the EE is gravity based she resists that

Black hole and he starts off with presence of the demon king you need class T LS for it

 

[Pikaman]

I mean White Diamond won't be able to move because of presence of the demon king

Why not? How does it work

 

[Pikaman]

So White should be fine with the EE (how does a 6-B have black holes anyways), how does the paralysing or whatever work?

 

[theultimate5105]

Why not? How does it work

It pushes you down with Gravity and you need Class T to move around with it effecting you

 

[Pikaman]

It pushes you down with Gravity and you need Class T to move around with it effecting you

Oh White has no problem with that Gem biology is designed in a way that they can react to any and all types of gravity, they resist nearly all types of Gravity Manip

 

[speedster352]

Oh White has no problem with that Gem biology is designed in a way that they can react to any and all types of gravity, they resist nearly all types of Gravity Manip

Then Lucifero will use EE or heavy infighting and other spells. Lucifero gravity works on those that resist it

 

[Pikaman]

Lucifero gravity works on those that resist it

Can you give an example of an instance this happened, who, and what type of resistance they have? You’d probably need some kind of bio manip to override Gem’s gravity resistances, and they resist that as well iirc

 

[Pikaman]

How does the Black hole work? Does it last a set amount of time, is it kamikaze and if not how does Lucifero, a 6-B, survive it?

 

[speedster352]

How does the Black hole work? Does it last a set amount of time, is it kamikaze and if not how does Lucifero, a 6-B, survive it?

It's a black hole that EE things

Resistance to Cold Temperatures (Unaffected by the cold temperature of the Spade Kingdom), Fire Manipulation (Mereoleona was completely unable to burn Lucifero), Heat Manipulation (Unable to be burned by Mereoleona's flames, which get exponentially hotter after each hit, higher with Mana Skin [Mana Skin allows even the average Magic Knights to run across the Yultim Volcano, whose ambient heat can reduce a human into ashes]), Cutting Attacks and Adaptation (Jack was completely unable to cut Lucifero, even though his blades adapt to their opponent in order to cut them), Deconstruction and Holy Manipulation (Unaffected by Yuno's Saint Spirit of Zephyr, which destroys devils and has the same effects as regular Spirit of Zephyr. Nacht stated that only Anti-Magic works on him, implying that Saint Stage power doesn't have an effect on him), Mind Manipulation (Due to having a developed Magic Power, mages are unaffected by Neige's Snow Magic, which controls the target. As a Supreme Devil, Lucifero possesses a tremendous amount of negative Mana, which can corrupt the mind and souls of its victims or users alike), Pocket Reality Manipulation, Spatial Manipulation and BFR (Was unaffected by Dorothy's attempt to send him to Glamour World), Power Nullification (Superior to Dante, who could affect Asta with his space-warping gravity despite the latter having Anti-Magic and being resistant to spatial warping. Superior to Noelle, whose Mana Skin allowed her to cast a spell in the presence of an elf's magic-nullifying spell) and Sleep Manipulation with Mana Skin (Superior to Leopold, whose Mana Skin allowed him to overcome the effects of Fragil's sleep-inducing Snow Magic)

Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Devil Physiology, Overwhelming Aura (Mages with a large amount of Magic Power can exert it to induce an intense pressure in their surroundings. Lucifero's Magic Power is vastly superior to Megicula and Zagred's Magic Power, which Yami described as being in a completely different level), Black Hole Creation, Durability Negation (With Gravity Magic spells such as Gravity Singularity or Presence of the Demon King), Enhanced Senses, Extrasensory Perception (Those with Magic Power have the ability to sense the flow of Mana in their surroundings as well as other people's Magic Power), Existence Erasure, Flight (True Flight), Forcefield Creation (People with a large amount of Magic Power have a forcefield of Magic Power that naturally protects them from incoming attacks), Fusionism (Combined all of the lower-ranked devils from the first and second gates of the Tree of Qliphoth into one entity for him to manifest in), Gravity Magic, Information Analysis (People with a great magic sensing have the ability to gauge the power or even the magic attribute of mages located miles away), Magic (Attribute: Gravity Magic), Magic Bullets, Magic Nullification via Forcefield Creation (Lucifero's Magic Power is vastly superior to the elves, whom possess a field that can prevent mages from casting spells or exerting magic in their presence), Non-Physical Interaction (Destroyed Dorothy's spell that warps its target to Glamour World, a spell that lacked physical substance), Spatial Manipulation, Statistics Amplification (With Reinforcement Magic, Mana Skin, and Heavy Infighting), Telekinesis, Teleportation (Teleported away from Asta's sword strike), Body Control (Turned his upper wings into additional arms)

 

[Pikaman]

Does it last a set amount of time, is it kamikaze and if not how does Lucifero, a 6-B, survive it?

^

 

[speedster352]

^

He just fires it as an orb that EE look and Dante vs yami

 

[Pikaman]

?

 

[speedster352]

?

here

 

[Pikaman]

Oh it’s just some big ball? Can it be countered with an opposing force

 

[speedster352]

Oh it’s just some big ball? Can it be countered with an opposing force

nope it erases everything in its path and lucifero has other abilities like heavy infighting and etc

 

[Arnoldstone18]

Oh it’s just some big ball? Can it be countered with an opposing force

Nah it just deletes everything in its path

 

[Kachon123]

Following

 

[Pikaman]

Nah it just deletes everything in its path

I mean

Speed: At least Relativistic, likely far higher Reactions and Combat Speed

 

[speedster352]

I mean

Speed is equalized reactions too read the versus thread rules

 

[Pikaman]

Yes and that is WD’S speed which is the lower of the two and is more than fast enough to dodge a ball of energy if it’s isn’t FTL which it blatantly isn’t from the clip you showed me

 

[speedster352]

Yes and that is WD’S speed which is the lower of the two and is more than fast enough to dodge a ball of energy if it’s isn’t FTL which it blatantly isn’t from the clip you showed me

Speed and reactions is equalized read versus thread rules

 

[Pikaman]

Elaborate because that attack isn’t FTL or even Light Speed (from what I saw) and White is slower than Lucifero so both are at her speed. Why are you talking reaction speeds?

 

[Worthless]

What is WD wincon?

 

[speedster352]

Elaborate because that attack isn’t FTL or even Light Speed (from what I saw) and White is slower than Lucifero so both are at her speed. Why are you talking reaction speeds?

Speed is equalized. Yami dodged it with precog, and acrobatics and dodged in advance since it's that fast and dangerous.

What is WD wincon?

Bfr but luci resist bfr

 

[Pikaman]

Bfr but luci resist bfr

Uh, we haven’t even talked AP, other hax etc.

 

[speedster352]

Uh, we haven’t even talked AP, other hax etc.

Luci ap is 53 teratons

 

[speedster352]

Uh, we haven’t even talked AP, other hax etc.

here

 

[Pikaman]

Speed is equalized. Yami dodged it with precog, and acrobatics and dodged in advance since it's that fast and dangerous.

Ok, but you’re dancing around the fact White’s speed should be enough to dodge it, there’s no way that projectile scales to his regular speed on his profile because it took several seconds to climb up a mountain, wayyy below Relativistic

 

[speedster352]

Ok, but you’re dancing around the fact White’s speed should be enough to dodge it, there’s no way that projectile scales to his regular speed on his profile because it took several seconds to climb up a mountain, wayyy below Relativistic

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Seriously? You don't know what speed equalization is? How is his attack slower I explained how Yami dodged it? Lucifero has heavy infighting to amp his physical attacks with each hit and shatter WD to pieces

 

[Worthless]

Ok, but you’re dancing around the fact White’s speed should be enough to dodge it, there’s no way that projectile scales to his regular speed on his profile because it took several seconds to climb up a mountain, wayyy below Relativistic

Speed is equal so it doesn't matter if he is relativistic or not.

 

[Pikaman]

So Yami’s FTL and had to precog to dodge this attack which slivered up a mountain, I’m assuming because of it just not being drawn as FTL in the anime? K fair enough

 

[Pikaman]

Luci ap is 53 teratons

Ok, so AP is a wincon for both of them, though Luci has an advantage

 

[Pikaman]

Lucifero has heavy infighting to amp his physical attacks with each hit and shatter WD to pieces

White also has physical amps, she’s not getting totally outclassed in AP

 

[Pikaman]

How does the BFR resistance work?

 

[speedster352]

Ok, so AP is a wincon for both of them, though Luci has an advantage

And lucifero has heavy infighting, mana skin and mana zone to amp his attacks exponentially

How does the BFR resistance work?

Read his profile

 

[Pikaman]

And lucifero has heavy infighting, mana skin and mana zone to amp his attacks exponentially

Wouldn’t those amps put him well past 100 Teratons at that point? Shouldn’t that be restricted idk how tournaments with AP limits like this one deals with amps that push characters beyond that level

Read his profile

I did and it just says he was unaffected by someone trying to send him to another world or smth, which can be because of a multitude of reasons that don’t cover bubbling such as resistances to magic etc