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Would this be more fair if I used a different pokemon?
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Of courseWould this be more fair if I used a different pokemon?
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Alakazam is a stompok I changed it to alakazam
Ok now it's LucarioAlakazam is a stomp
It has precognition that looks into your entire history just by looking at you and would hax Sonic
Use Mega Lucario or a Gmax Pokémon instead
Agility+Extreme speed is pretty damn fastAgainst Lucario this time around, kinda seems like it ends in a Sonic victory, but this time with a much higher difficulty. Both Sonic and Lucario can just amp themselves to a higher speed and power, not sure about how big Lucario's strength amp is, things like Steadfast and Endure can clearly help him handle Sonic in hand to hand contests. Endure really saves Lucario from Sonic's power and strength amp from using a ring, since Sonic's amp clearly brings him up to like one-shot territory because it's pretty consistent that once Sonic gets a ring, he usually one-shots things that were comparable to him without it.
So the real question is how much faster Extreme Speed would make Lucario. If he uses ES and Sonic uses a ring, MAYBE they'll be even in speed again, but then Lucario'd just get one-shot. If he uses Endure, he'll survive, but then Sonic could just use chaos control and take the win that way. So it comes down to a staredown situation that Sonic wins to me. I'm voting for Sonic.
CountedAgainst Lucario this time around, kinda seems like it ends in a Sonic victory, but this time with a much higher difficulty. Both Sonic and Lucario can just amp themselves to a higher speed and power, not sure about how big Lucario's strength amp is, things like Steadfast and Endure can clearly help him handle Sonic in hand to hand contests. Endure really saves Lucario from Sonic's power and strength amp from using a ring, since Sonic's amp clearly brings him up to like one-shot territory because it's pretty consistent that once Sonic gets a ring, he usually one-shots things that were comparable to him without it.
So the real question is how much faster Extreme Speed would make Lucario. If he uses ES and Sonic uses a ring, MAYBE they'll be even in speed again, but then Lucario'd just get one-shot. If he uses Endure, he'll survive, but then Sonic could just use chaos control and take the win that way. So it comes down to a staredown situation that Sonic wins to me. I'm voting for Sonic.
CountedI vote for lucario due to being able to move much faster with amps and hit so damn hard
No, it isn't.Not to mention Extreme speed is the fastest priority move in the game
Is this page basically saying quick claw and custap berry is faster?
Lucario literally has a passive ability that boost it's power and it's stat amp like ES and Agility is literally activated just by Lucario going fastSonic being bloodlusted still would mean he'd stop time and defeat Lucario this way. Or use the ring boost. Or both
Even if Sonic is hit by Extreme Speed before then, Lucario is at an AP disadvantage, and Sonic can defeat him with the boost from the rings
Aura can help Lucario a bit, but I think Sonic still wins this one
CountedSonic being bloodlusted still would mean he'd stop time and defeat Lucario this way. Or use the ring boost. Or both
Even if Sonic is hit by Extreme Speed before then, Lucario is at an AP disadvantage, and Sonic can defeat him with the boost from the rings
Aura can help Lucario a bit, but I think Sonic still wins this one
No? There's a section for move priority showing how fast, with E-speed falling under +2 when there's moves with +3, +4, and +5. Offense wise, fake out comes out faster than extreme speedIs this page basically saying quick claw and custap berry is faster?
What are you talking about? It's all the same arguement so it doesn't matter how many people there are, you either can refute it or you can prove Lucario could pull something of to grant him more win conditions.I'll just wait for more backup
Can't handle 2 and 3 guys right now
I wouldn't necessarily say that. Some other members could be more insightful of the series and offer new information that they weren't necessarily aware of. There's always the possibility they can bring something new to the table depending on how well versed they are on Pokemon. Thus changing the argument.What are you talking about? It's all the same arguement so it doesn't matter how many people there are, you either can refute it or you can prove Lucario could pull something of to grant him more win conditions.
CountedAnyways, Sonic uses Chaos Control, amps, and then one-shots FRA
You ignore the part where both are bloodlusted, meaning Sonic will use his ring boost immediately or just win with Chaos ControlLucario literally has a passive ability that boost it's power and it's stat amp like ES and Agility is literally activated just by Lucario going fast
Not only that but Lucario can read minds and has precognition with aura so even if sonic decideds to use chaos control Lucario would swords dance+ adaptability+ES+Agility to curbstomp
countedSonic FRA