Lucario vs Goku

[The_real_cal_howard]

Wait...what?

WHAT?!

Goku vs Furry Goku

Goku in Ultra Instinct vs Lucario (Pokemon 7)

Speed equalized. And as SD pointed out to me a long time ago, ki would be more similar to Pokemon's Infinite Energy rather than Aura, so Goku wouldn't be fighting type.

 

[PTSOXMONKEY99]

Going with Lucario via versatility (Poison Manipulation, Precog, Status Effect, Mind Reading, Rage Power and attack reflection to name a few)

 

[Theglassman12]

Goku's resistant to poison.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Only w/ that barrier tho

 

[PTSOXMONKEY99]

With shields

Either way, he still can't get past Lucario's other abilities

 

[Theglassman12]

By the way, it's stated in Lucario's profile that he oneshotted Darkrai, who's 2-C. So why isn't Lucario 2-C?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Because he siphoned energy from 8-10 of his friends and Darkrai was asleep. And Darkrai is baseline.

 

[Theglassman12]

Even if it's baseline, it's still 2-C

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Again, Lucario was in a very advantageous position. Asleep and off-guard Darkrai, type advantage, and boosted. Awake Darkrai would've messed Lucario up.

 

[Therefir]

Poor Goku he can't take a break after his upgrade to low 2-C

 

[Theglassman12]

Yeah there's no way that Goku can do anything to him.

 

[AguilaR101]

I don't really think lucario's tier is justified in the slightest, he is scaled off a darkrai from another continuity? How do you figure he has the same stats as his other versions that have actually faced off against the creation trio and done tier 2 feats on his own?

 

[Therefir]

The worst thing is that Lucario have both instinctive reaction and precognition, making the only good ability that goku have useless.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Well, it's more that Detect falls under both categories, as it's been portrayed as both, especially by Lucario. And unlike Goku, it's not passive.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Whoa....Cal ive gotten many surprised before....

Like on my birthday or at christmas...

But a Low 2-C Lucario?

You've taken the cake on my surprises OVO

 

[Therefir]

Goku attacks maybe counts as fighting moves?, Lucario is very weak to that.

 

[Theglassman12]

Goku attacks maybe counts as fighting moves?, Lucario is very weak to that.

Doesn't matter since nothing Goku has can harm him thanks to precognition. Shouldn't this be closed since Goku can't harm Lucario at all?

 

[AKM sama]

> UI had a screen time of like 10 minutes

> Goku already can't catch a break

 

[AKM sama]

It would be a stomp if Lucario is on the higher spectrum of low 2-C imo

 

[Therefir]

He scales of a 2-C Darkrai.

 

[Theglassman12]

It would be a stomp if Lucario is on the higher spectrum of low 2-C imo

It does say "at least low 2-C" on his profile.

 

[AKM sama]

Yes, this was the same case in Goku vs WarGreymon. WarGreymon scaled off of a 2-C and was also "At least low 2-C". That was considered a mismatch.

Well, let's see how this one turns out.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

Yes, this was the same case in Goku vs WarGreymon. WarGreymon scaled off of a 2-C and was also "At least low 2-C". That was considered a mismatch.
Well, let's see how this one turns out.

Considering this Lucario has much more hax than WarGreymon did when fighting Goku, this here is much worse for Goku.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Eh... Brave Tornado. Asi, best not to mention Digimon on a Pokémon thread.

 

[Intruvious]

Atleast Low 2-C vs Low 2-C? Not only that... Lucario for reasons above.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Bump

 

[ZackMoon1234]

Lucario for reasons above for now..

 

[Theglassman12]

Cal, you and I both know that this is a stomp/mismatch. Just like kukui said, it's like WG, only worse, and that thread was closed because it was a mismatch.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Lucario for reasons above, more AP and better hax.

 

[Therefir]

If WG was considered a stomp, this should be a stomp too.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Lucario for reasons above.

 

[Paulo.junior.969]

Now I want a Lucario Vs WarGreymon =/

 

[Theglassman12]

If WG was considered a stomp, I don't why this not.

You don't why this not?????

 

[Theglassman12]

Now I want a Lucario Vs WarGreymon =/

It's pretty clear who the winner will be if that happened.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Bump (no, I don't think this is a stomp, as Lucario is indeed haxless)

 

[TheRustyOne]

Bump (no, I don't think this is a stomp, as Lucario is indeed haxless)

Lucario is 2-C this should be closed for being a stomp.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

...why is he 2-C?

 

[Assaltwaffle]

Seems like Lucario is indeed 2-C on his profile. Darkrai is 2-C as well, so that is why Lucario has gained this rating.

 

[Akreious]

This should be moved to a content revision, but from all the messages above it seems to me that Lucario has an unjustified 2-C rating as he had basically all the advantages to win against Darkrai, and I am almost completely sure that an awaken Darkrai at full power Vs Lucario (Full Power) would result in a very dead Lucario.

 

[ProfessorKukui4Life]

For one, we already did a CRT for this and closed it as after everything it went nowhere.

Second, that at all doesnt discourage the rating of this feat.