Love Train vs Yhwach

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Love how were pretending Lucy doesn't exist.

Who's Lucy?

She is an average girl, who is the source of love train I think. She is part of his equipments apperently.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Essentially Love Train's power source

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Love Train is clearly miles better then the balance

Outside of where the misfortune goes, it's the same thing word for word lol.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Technically she's not average since she has Ticket to Ride.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Outside of where the misfortune goes, it's the same thing word for word lol.

Not really. Love Train has 2-A range, and can work pretty well offensively and defensively

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Outside of where the misfortune goes, it's the same thing word for word lol.

Not really. Love Train has 2-A range, and can work pretty well offensively and defensively
"Outside of where the misfortune goes, it's the same thing word for word lol." you just said what I said but stated the range.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Yeah, except 2-A range >>>>>> a shield, and you didn't really acknowledge that.

 

[Warren_Valion]

Love Train is clearly miles better then the balance

Not really, the only difference is where the misfortune is redirected, and the range - but the range is irrelevant.

Doesn't stop Jugram, nor Love Train from getting nulled.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

I see no reason he can't null it, the power itself is The Balance. it's just that the stand can travel to alternate realities which actually doesn't mean much in terms of AP. That's like me saying Ichibe is Universal since he can control all the black in the world and that space is black lol. it's just his area of influence.

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Area of influence is extremely important though. Range is a big part of how we judge potency often times.

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

I've only seen that apply to mind hax?

 

[Warren_Valion]

Area of influence is extremely important though. Range is a big part of how we judge potency often times.

This isn't mindhax.

From what I understand, Love Train shifts the misfortune that is bestowed upon him onto a parallel universe version of himself, and since the Jojo multiverse is 2-A, there are infinite versions.

That's simply range, not potency - he's not controlling them multiverse or whatever.

Yhwach's power null will just negate the ability.

And unless Love Train's ability gets listed as 2-A on his page via CRT or something, then it's just range and he can be affected.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Mindhax measures by the amount of minds hax'd or if it worked on higher dimensional minds, range on its own is irrelevant. It still shouldn't matter to this as the abilities work the exact same aside from the range. The argument for Love Train being superior to Balance is the equivalent of saying a .50 cal hand cannon is weaker than a .50 cal sniper rifle just because the latter has superior range despite both having the same force and bullet.

 

[TriforcePower1]

Thing is, Yhwach nulls, null gets redirected to an another universe and cannot PN. Instead of being redirected somewhere actually close to the guy in question (can someone link his page here?)

 

[Sigurd_Snake_in_The_Eye]

Btw his Almighty gives him reactive evolution to the abilities he sees and therefore understands, it's not just null. He already has resistance to causality manipulation so he'd just get an even better variant of it.

Also i'm not sure how he is going to send the null elsewhere.

 

[Warren_Valion]

Thing is, Yhwach nulls, null gets redirected to an another universe and cannot PN. Instead of being redirected somewhere actually close to the guy in question (can someone link his page here?)

That's not going to happen.

I'm going to quote IMadeThisOn8-1-2017 to help explain The Almighty's Power Null:

"The Almighty grants Yhwach the ability to know about everything he sees, for all powers he sees to take his side, to be immune to all powers he knows and not able to be defeated by such powers. And that is not all as he is able to see the future, the ability to steal powers and be able to give his Reiatsu to others.

The power nullification/immunity is pretty potent as Yhwach has already nulled an ability that denies it's target's reincarnation and returns them to nothing. He also had his powers removed and replaced with that of a literal ant, yet Yhwach could remove the seal, return his powers to himself and nullify the ability after it had happened.

We didn't get limits for the Almighty is the problem. So whatever seems reasonable is the best bet and stuff we know he could be immune to (such as the Stern Ritter abilities since he made those abilities). It's also reasonable to assume he could be immune to every ability in Bleach given he is the singular God Tier."

One of Yhwach's Sternritter - Jugram Haschwalth, has an ability called: "B - The Balance"

"B - The Balance is Haschwalth's Schrift that allows him to manipulate the fortune and misfortune that occurs within his sphere of influence, all good fortune experienced by the opponent in causing injury to him will be directed back to them as misfortune of the same magnitude. Furthermore, he can redirect all misfortune that befalls him onto his Freund Schild. On top of this, any misfortune that befalls the Freund Schild can be reapplied back to his opponent to cause even more misfortune."

Love Train's ability works similary to The Balance with one noticable difference, where the misfourtune is redirected to, instead of a shield, it is onto a parallel version of himself.

Since Yhwach can null at the very least every sternritter ability, he would be able to null Love Train's ability as well.

The null wouldn't get redirected, it would just null Love Train's power.

 

[MachTwo]

So, what's stopping him to Sankt Altar Love train? He could have steal his power.