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Lobotomy Kaisen Causes a Mutiny (Jogo vs. Mahito)

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Circumstances during the Shibuya Incident cause a rift to form between the Disaster Curses, forcing JoGOAT and MaHIMto to duel. (I probably didn’t think this through—)
Shibuya Incident Mahito is used, Mahito starts in base.
Arena is Shibuya Crossing.
Starting distance is 10 meters.
SBA otherwise.

Votes

“Stand proud, you’re strong.”:
“I’m you.”:
“Nah, I’d win.” (Incon):
 
Jogoat most likely outlasts Mahito. Because of both having information on each other I don't think Jogo would let Mahito touch him.
 
Could mahito use his speed amp to surprise and touch Jogo?
I don't think his speed amps would work here. Naobito > Nanami. Albeit Naobito was weakened. Jogo was able to smoke him. Jogoat perception blitzed Maki and Nanami (Albeit weakened). Oh there was two statement indicating Jogoat is fastest disaster curse.
 
Maki and Nanami (Albeit weakened).
a weaker mahito also blitzed nanami with his speed amp tho
Oh there was two statement indicating Jogoat is fastest disaster curse.
I agree that he is faster I just think that due to the starting distance mahito's speed amp will give him a opportunity to easily touch Jogo

But that's his only chance to touch Jogo cuz Jogo can just keep his distance and outlast him so I'll vote jogo
 
Voting Jogoat overall. Mahito only Wincon is touching Jogo and transforming his soul but I don't see many chances of him getting to do that.
 
Jogo has no way of actually damaging Mahito, while all Mahito needs is one good hit with IT which he can get by either catching him off guard with a speed boost or hitting him with 0.2 second domain expansion

Mahito wins
 
Jogo has no way of actually damaging Mahito, while all Mahito needs is one good hit with IT which he can get by either catching him off guard with a speed boost or hitting him with 0.2 second domain expansion

Mahito wins
Jogo can drain Mahito CE by continuously attacking him. He doesn't need to damage his soul directly.
 
Jogo can drain Mahito CE by continuously attacking him. He doesn't need to damage his soul directly.
Yea that aint happening, Mahito has some of the most insane CE reserves in the series.

He used his CT 1000 times to transigure all the people on the train, took a ton attacks from Yuji and Nobara that directly hit his soul including 2 Black Flashes, took just as many attacks from Todo, used a ton of big moves and all of the Transigured humans at his disposial, used domain expansion and after all that still had enough CE left to transform his own soul and nearly kill Yuji
 
Could he possibly incinerate him with his DE or Maximum? Assuming Low-High regen, Mahito wouldn’t be able to recover since those injuries would require Mid-High or above.
Mahito can regen from any attack that doesn't hit his soul as long as he has CE to use his technique so he would be able to survive those as well
 
Yea that aint happening, Mahito has some of the most insane CE reserves in the series.

He used his CT 1000 ties to transigure all the people on the train, took a ton attacks from Yuji and Nobara that directly hit his soul including 2 Black Flashes, took even just as many attacks from Todo, used a ton of big moves and all of the Transigured humans at his disposial, used domain expansion and after all that still had enough CE left to transform his own soul and nearly kill Yuji
Jogoat is compared to 8-9F Sukuna's level (Despite it being generous). I don't see Mahito having more Cursed Energy than Jogo, honestly. Mahito also states Jogo has more CE than 3F Sukuna, implying Jogo has more CE than him. Also, Jogo used a max technique and still showed no signs of getting tired from it.

Transforming other humans shouldn't be taken as a significant factor in measuring his CE above Jogo's. We have Kenny having enough CE to manipulate many Cursed spirits, yet his CE is below Yuta's.
 
Jogoat is compared to 8-9F Sukuna's level (Despite it being generous). I don't see Mahito having more Cursed Energy than Jogo, honestly. Mahito also states Jogo has more CE than 3F Sukuna, implying Jogo has more CE than him. Also, Jogo used a max technique and still showed no signs of getting tired from it.

Transforming other humans shouldn't be taken as a significant factor in measuring his CE above Jogo's. We have Kenny having enough CE to manipulate many Cursed spirits, yet his CE is below Yuta's.
Even if his CE reserves aren't higher than Jogo it woudl still take an ungodly amount of time for Jogo to drain him completely, which would give Mahito a lot of time to find a way to hit him with Idle Tranfiguration.

Jogo would need thousends of attacks to win, while Mahito only needs one and the difference in stats betwen the two is not great enough to cover for that
 
Even if his CE reserves aren't higher than Jogo it woudl still take an ungodly amount of time for Jogo to drain him completely, which would give Mahito a lot of time to find a way to hit him with Idle Tranfiguration.

Jogo would need thousends of attacks to win, while Mahito only needs one and the difference in stats betwen the two is not great enough to cover for that
Even if it takes thousands or millions of attacks, Jogo should be able to pull it off. Lol.
Mahito's main body is the only thing that can execute that touch; his other body lacks the AP and ability. So, Jogo can always evade that. First, Mahito needs to get close to Jogo to even pull it off. So, Mahito directly coming and hitting Jogo is hard for him. It's a match where Jogo can outlast Mahito overall, especially since Jogo is likely the fastest disaster curse overall.
 
Which he has several ways of doing like hiding himself in body repel or catching him of guard by boosting his speed.
The problem is both has information on both of them so obviously I would say Jogo would try to nuke Mahito from distance and body repel is only few meters at best. Jogos flames are enough to reach big buildings he also has insect bombs I don't see Jugo giving any chance to mahito. Let's not forget his volcano blasts out of nowhere.

Also Nanami case he did reacted to some extent. Speed amp wasn't that big. Jogo having already knowledge on that should be able to evade that.
Hell he doesn't even need to get that close, he can just open the 0.2 second DE before Jogo counters with his own
This needs to within few meters distance otherwise it wouldn't work I mean domain range wouldn't hit Jogo.
 
body repel is only few meters at best
Body repel is multiple floors big
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Also Nanami case he did reacted to some extent.
He also reacted to some extent to Jogo so it evens out
Jogo having already knowledge on that should be able to evade that.
Why would Jogo have knowledge of a single applycation of Mahtio's CT that he only used once?
This needs to within few meters distance otherwise it wouldn't work I mean domain range wouldn't hit Jogo.
Which is not impossible, especially when they start at 10 meters from one another
 
Body repel is multiple floors big
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Forgot about this yeah I can see this happening but what's stopping Jogo to continuously burning this thing down. He should have enough AP for that.
He also reacted to some extent to Jogo so it evens out
Not really look at Mahito vs Nanami case he shifted his body to some extent but that's not the case when he fought Jogo.
Also that's not the only thing here. We are talking about likely fastest disaster curse Jogo vs Mahito amped speed which never worked on people like Yuji and Todo who were on guard. Jogo knows Mahito can change his soul. So he would be expecting that
Why would Jogo have knowledge of a single applycation of Mahtio's CT that he only used once?
In Shibuya Jogo saw the body repel though when he used that as a wall to seperate Jogo and himself? Or it is something else?
Which is not impossible, especially when they start at 10 meters from one another
Either Jogo counters it with his domain or Mahito wouldn't starts off with it.
I mean we literally see Todo countering it with SD but failed because he was taken by surprise and still only lost his hand I can see Jogo countering it with his own.
 
Not really look at Mahito vs Nanami case he shifted his body to some extent but that's not the case when he fought Jogo.
He shifted his body against Jogo too, infact he moved more than he did against Mahito where he just percieved him
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Also that's not the only thing here. We are talking about likely fastest disaster curse Jogo vs Mahito amped speed which never worked on people like Yuji and Todo who were on guard. Jogo knows Mahito can change his soul. So he would be expecting that

In Shibuya Jogo saw the body repel though when he used that as a wall to seperate Jogo and himself? Or it is something else?
I was refering to the speed boost
Either Jogo counters it with his domain or Mahito wouldn't starts off with it.
Jogo can't form his domain fast enough to counter it
I mean we literally see Todo countering it with SD but failed because he was taken by surprise and still only lost his hand I can see Jogo countering it with his own.
DE takes a lot more time to form than simple domain
 
He shifted his body against Jogo too, infact he moved more than he did against Mahito where he just percieved him
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It was pretty much looked like Jogo intentionally stopped there to body count though.
I was refering to the speed boost
I mean he knows Mahito can change his soul

Also what's stopping Jogo doing the same thing to Mahito? He can just keep roasting him with this volcano blasts until he runs out CE to repair his body.
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Jogo can't form his domain fast enough to counter it
He is likely the fastest disaster curse and Naoya blizted post Mahito fight Yuji even without full speed while Naobito desperately trying (albeit weakened) got bodied by Jogo. I would say Jogo has enough speed to counter Mahito's domain.
DE takes a lot more time to form than simple domain
There is nowhere states this bruh where did you get this? Simple domain even needs move your body and make a pose while DE is only hand signs. We literally see many people clashing their DE with another ones.
 
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It was pretty much looked like Jogo intentionally stopped there to body count though.
Fair
I mean he knows Mahito can change his soul
Yes but there's no reason to assume he knows every possible way he can change his soul
Also what's stopping Jogo doing the same thing to Mahito? He can just keep roasting him with this volcano blasts until he runs out CE to repair his body.
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There's nothing stopping him but like i said before, Mahito has so much CE that it would take an massive amount of time for that to happen
He is likely the fastest disaster curse and Naoya blizted post Mahito fight Yuji even without full speed while Naobito desperately trying (albeit weakened) got bodied by Jogo. I would say Jogo has enough speed to counter Mahito's domain.
Physical speed =/= Domain activation speed. Neither Jogo or Kenjaku thought that Gojo would have pulled the 0.2 second manouver implying neither of them can activate their domains that fast
There is nowhere states this bruh where did you get this?
smaller barrier = less time to form
Simple domain even needs move your body and make a pose while DE is only hand signs. We literally see many people clashing their DE with another ones.
Yes but Mahito's activation speed is specifically noted as extremely fast. Also mind you Todo wasn't even able to fully cast simple domain
 
Yes but there's no reason to assume he knows every possible way he can change his soul
He knows he can change it into animals. At the very least they had spend time way longer. I believe Mahito would have already played many franks against Jogo knowing Mahito's character. So Jogo would know most of his stuff.
There's nothing stopping him but like i said before, Mahito has so much CE that it would take an massive amount of time for that to happen
It's the same case for Jogo. Additionally Jogos attacks are not the same as Yuji or Todos kick punches. jogo can fully destroy Mahito's body and it would result in more CE consumption to reshape his body.

It's a match of endurance. Jogo should take it when comes to CE.
Physical speed =/= Domain activation speed. Neither Jogo or Kenjaku thought that Gojo would have pulled the 0.2 second manouver implying neither of them can activate their domains that fast
Read below explanation.
smaller barrier = less time to form
Mahito doesn't have smaller barrier I think you misunderstood 0.2s domain it's just how much time domain was activated. It has nothing to do with speed of Domain activation.
Yes but Mahito's activation speed is specifically noted as extremely fast. Also mind you Todo wasn't even able to fully cast simple domain
No Mahito's sure hit activation time is noted to be fast not domain itself. Also it should be noted when Two domain collide one which has more CE or refined rules over the other. It's debatable Jogo having more CE rulling over Mahito's domain but let's leave it aside.

We also see Megumi incomplete domain messing up sure hit of Dagon's domain just because Barriers got collided.
 
Mahimto can use Transfigured Humans and Body Repel to create openings. Then Mahito simply gives himself animal legs and slaps Jogoat. If it’s a Domain Clash then Mahito’s 0.2 second domain will give him the advantage, in a similar way to Hakari’s fast domain
 
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