JJK Gojo and Sukuna revisions

[Apotheosis69]

I thought with Black Flash bein grounded from Cursed Energy itself which ofc is the UES of JJK. Along with two completely different types of entities Humans And Cursed Spirits being affected by it in the exact same way, I thought it would be a broadened effect to all Cursed Energy users, plus its consistent and similar with how Gojō and Sukuna got beneficial effects (such as improved/regained Reverse Cursed Technique and Domain Expansion energy output) instead of just an increased power in that one strike.

 

[Arkenis]

UES

We don't have ues for JJK if you mean that.

plus its consistent with how Gojo and Sukuna got beneficial effects (such as improved/regained Reverse Cursed Technique and Domain Expansion energy output)

Doesn't mean its assumed for all stats. I feel like we'd have something to at least back it, Nanami says the flow of ce is like breathing which does help but I don't think we've ever seen a speed amp nor has it been said.

 

[LIGHTYW]

We don't have ues for JJK if you mean that.


Doesn't mean its assumed for all stats. I feel like we'd have something to at least back it, Nanami says the flow of ce is like breathing which does help but I don't think we've ever seen a speed amp nor has it been said.

Black flash amps your output, the more energy you output = the stronger/faster youre..

 

[Sir_Marvulous]

I don't think there's any basis for that. That also is said for three characters not bf in general

The Black Flash section of the Cursed Energy page makes it seem like it's accepted otherwise

 

[Arkenis]

Black flash amps your output, the more energy you output = the stronger/faster youre..

When is it said to amp your output? And just output doesn't make you stronger, manipulation of it also factors in.

 

[Apotheosis69]

It brings out 120% of your "potential". Potential being well… everything about you and your capabilities

 

[Arkenis]

The Black Flash section of the Cursed Energy page makes it seem like it's accepted otherwise

Not sure why, but its not too important for the speed topic.

 

[LIGHTYW]

When is it said to amp your output? And just output doesn't make you stronger, manipulation of it also factors in.

Chap 256, maki and choso says that and more output does make you stronger, thats why maki and yuji were catching up a 16F sukuna, because he only had 10% of output

 

[Arkenis]

It brings out 120% of your "potential". Potential being well… everything about you and your capabilities

Why is potential everything?

Chap 256, maki and choso says that and more output does make you stronger, thats why maki and yuji were catching up a 16F sukuna, because he only had 10% of output

I'm talking about when Black Flash is said to amp output.

 

[LIGHTYW]

Why is potential everything?


I'm talking about when Black Flash is said to amp output.

.. Chap 256? Sukuna hits a BF on larue, miguel states sukuna condition is improving

sukuna hits another bf on maki, a sec after that bf, maki states that sukunas output is increasing

Sukuna hits another bf on choso, a sec after that, choso states that his output was increasing but yuji soul punches nerfed it again

 

[Arkenis]

.. Chap 256? Sukuna hits a BF on larue, miguel states sukuna condition is improving

sukuna hits another bf on maki, a sec after that bf, maki states that sukunas output is increasing

Sukuna hits another bf on choso, a sec after that, choso states that his output was increasing but yuji soul punches nerfed it again

This isn't really what I was talking about. I was referring to people explaining BF as giving an amp itself. We only know bf to improve manipulation which in turn increases one's output.

 

[LIGHTYW]

This isn't really what I was talking about. I was referring to people explaining BF as giving an amp itself. We only know bf to improve manipulation which in turn increases one's output.

thats the same thing, i think? Maki says that sukunas slashes were stronger and had a greater output after hitting BF, so BF is increasing his output anyways

 

[Arkenis]

thats the same thing, i think? Maki says that sukunas slashes were stronger and had a greater output after hitting BF, so BF is increasing his output anyways

Yeah and output can be improved/made stronger/increased/greater through one's manipulation. Besides, we don't accept ce as a ues, the 120% isn't/shouldn't be assumed as a general statement.

 

[Arkenis]

The Black Flash section of the Cursed Energy page makes it seem like it's accepted otherwise

Funny thing, the section also is outdated, both these links link to the same scan lol

120% of their potential[74] and they gain a deeper understanding of the essence Cursed Energy[72] than those who have not experienced Black Flash.

 

[LIGHTYW]

Yeah and output can be improved/made stronger/increased/greater through one's manipulation. Besides, we don't accept ce as a ues, the 120% isn't/shouldn't be assumed as a general statement.

Ok, but hitting a BF would still make someone stronger and faster as well, although by a uncertain number

 

[Arkenis]

Ok, but hitting a BF would still make someone stronger and faster as well, although by a uncertain number

Yeah sure, I don't disagree with that, I was just explaining its more through manipulation amp than more ce.

 

[SunDaGamer]

I think the calc was wrong. The Maki one is being used iirc

This calc is wrong too