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I think you're talking about this video: The True Strength of Post Crisis Superma.DTG499 said:
I can tell you already that a lot of those mentioned feats are clearly been take out of context, like:
- Superman travel back in time when fighting Brainiac 13.
He used a Temporal Boom Tube, and even if it wasn't this was Sundip Superman, so even if he can travel in time it cannot be apply with Regular Superman.
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- Post Crisis scaling from Superboy-Prime, because Post Crisis was able to beat him in a fight.
The planet where him and Superboy were fighting on (which is Mogo by the way) was orbit around the Red Sun of Krypton, which depowered both of them, putting both of them at human level.
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- Destroy Reality-Blitzing Missiles in less than a human heart's beat.
Time itself was paused by Monitor Zillo Valla, this is why Superman was able to hit the missiles because they were frozen in time.
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- Break through the boundaries of space-time.
Destroy space-time doesn't make you 4th dimensional in either Speed or AP, especially when we don't know the precise amount, which make the feat unquantifiable.
Many fictional characters have done similar feats and they don't 4th dimensional level.
- Chasing Pre Crisis Superboy in the future.
Which only happen because he has clinging to Superboy's feet when the latter travel through time.
- Vibrate thought the timestream to go back in the past.
That was Pre Crisis Superman.
- Post Crisis scaling from Flash and Green Lantern, which are supposed to had Immensurable Speed.
Hal Jordan can only travel though time via Time Manipulation, not by sheer speed.
Same with Wally West, he can only running through time in specific situations, it doesn't scale to his regular speed.
- Post Crisis and Golden Age's battle shattered the boundary of space-time which threatened their universes.
Neither the narrator or the characters have even stated that the fight was causing destruction of such scale, not the visuals suggest something like that, we only see them wreak havoc to their respective Metropolis and shatter dimensional barriers (similar in the fight with Gogeta and Broly in Dragon Ball Super: Broly).
And there was the entire situation of Alexander Luthor Jr. recreating all the Parallels Earths before the Crisis of Infinite Earths, which made reality itself very fragility, this along side Superboy-Prime's punches which didn't help.
- Taking a cosmic storm created by Mister Mxyzptlk which was going to trasmute the entire universe.
It was never stated that the cosmic storm was going to affect (or was affecting) the entire universe, only that it was going to trasmutate everything it was going into contact.
- Fought Nebula Man which is a living universe.
Considering that Nebula Man doesn't seen to have any other feats and/or statements to back up him claim, i really find hard to believe him to be that powerful.
Even that he could be more like a pocket universe instead of a fully universal size space-time continuum.
- Surviving Aztek's 4th dimensional explosion in his tentative to destroy Mageddon.
We don't know how much energy it was unleashed or how much Superman took it, meaning again unquantifiable.
And is not like we can scale Mageddon to Superman since the latter was clearly above him.
- Post Crisis scaling from Brainiac-13 and Orion, which are supposed to be Universe level
Orion just like Darkseid use Avatars when interact with Earth, and avatars in general (like Darkseid) tend to had different levels of power, they never equally powerful.
And for Brainiac, it must be considered that many of his best feats have been done via Preparation Time, normally he isn't able to reset entire timelines.
- Suggesting that Superman was hold back again Emperor Joker and that he could have made a big difference
Scaling Post Crisis to Mister Mxyzptlk of all people, who had be consistently show to be far far more powerful than Superman (in any of his incarnations), is something so ridiculous that i shouldn't even explain why this is just wrong.
- Post Crisis scaling from Void Hound, which can destroy 10 star systems, and Post Crisis could survive one of his attacks
There is no way to prove that Void Hound was using that amount of power again Superman or that feat of such level can be perform casual.
Even that Superman needed the help of the entire Justice League to fight off that war machine and they were just a distraction, so Post Crisis doesn't scale to Void Hound.
- Post Crisis scaling from Sun Eater, who can eat entire star systems
Which again, it never specifiy if the Sun Eater can perform this kind of feats casually, its more likely that he can do it over a certain period of time.
Also, beside All Star i do not remember Superman never defeat Sun Eater in a direct confrontation.
- A fodder like Jenni Ognats can easily destroy the universe
She can only destroy the universe via the singularity she could potentially create, basically via chair reaction, it doesn't scale to her regular AP in anyway and it would be absurd to think otherwise.
- Saying that Green Lantern's Rings are 4th dimensional
Just because its 4th dimensional it doesn't means the Green Latern rings can destroy universes.
Also, that statement was referring to the Ring of Volthoom, not a Green Latern ring.
https://dc.fandom.com/wiki/Ring_of_Volthoom
- Saying that Golden Age is as powerful as Pre Crisis
If Golden Age was just as poweful as he was back in the Pre Crisis, then he should had be able to equally battle Superboy-Prime and even defeat him without outside help.
Since Golden Age had be show to be just as strong as Pre Crisis Superman, and Prime for how much poweful he was he was still below Pre Crisis Superman, but instead we see that both Golden Age and Post Crisis were heavenly outmatched.
For this reason Golden Age Superman in Crisis on Infinite Earths should be treated as different than him back in Crisis of Infinite Earths.
- Instantly kill Brainiac by clapping his palms and creating
That was in a dream, it didn't happen in real life.
- Post Crisis recreated the Miracle Machine
Yes, but the job was be eased thanks of the Legion of Superheroes since they were able to create a blueprints of the Miracle Machine, which Superman would then use later, i'm not saying that anyone could have recreate the Miracle Machine without know nothing about advance technology, but it isn't as impressive as you think.
- Post Crisis was able to calculate the infinite shifting points along the Source Wall
Just like the case above, he had help from Desaad, as he imprint a map in his mind, so again he wasn't alone.
- Post Crisis could find a weakness in a ship infinitely programmable and self-adaptable
Infinitely programmable usually means it can constantly alter his original program without end, but that do not means it can instantly adapt to anything or everything.
- Post Crisis having precognition ability
To be frank, that looks more like clairvoyance rather than actual precognition.
- Post Crisis's vision can extend to infinity
Superman, in the scan only stated that the dimension inside the painting seen to be infinite.
- Post Crisis was able to reach the Source Wall
This was Superman when he was very close to the Sun, making him far more powerful than normal.
