Lightning vs Ki - Cole MacGrath vs Son Goku

[DMUA]

Well.

I mean it's either that or Kagyua stomps Beast because "Lol you need sage energy to kill me"

So.

Yeah.

 

[Schnee_One]

Two WIDELY different things

But Im not arguing at this point as I need sleep.

Cole FRA

 

[DMUA]

If the speed equalization thing decides to keep Projectile speed unequalized, Goku's grave is going to be dig deeper here. There's no way he's dodging radiation.

 

[PTSOXMONKEY99]

Just gonna chip in my 2 cents on Cole's power null before going to bed:

I think at the end of the day, the RFI would only work on those who's powers are genetic's/DNA based, as Conduits get their powers from their Conduit gene. Like, it would probably work on a mutant from Marvel or on a Quirk user from MHA due to verse equalization, but against a person whose powers are spiritual based (ki)? I don't think the same rule applies, since the origin of their powers is completely different, and the RFI energy only has been shown to not harm non-Conduits (no humans were reported dead after the RFI Blast).

Now, how would the RFI work on Goku's Saiyain DNA? Idk

That's all I got for now. Good night everyone

 

[DMUA]

From the SBA:

"Furthermore, attacks that require a special type of energy to be effective, like anti-magic requiring magic, will be assumed to work against the energies of different Verses, as long as they are somehow similar and the mechanics are somehow compatible with the known mechanics behind the energies from different Verses. For example, mind control resistance by being a capable mind user would also work against other Verses, but mind control resistance through a strong will would not necessarily work against mind control from other Verses."

So.

Yeah.

 

[PTSOXMONKEY99]

mfw when you call the Amp a wrench

Yeah, but the mechanics behind ki manipulation in the DBverse are spiritual in nature, whereas energy/matter manipulation in the inFamousverse comes from genetics. So they're not really similar, it's kinda a science vs magic type deal.

 

[Akreious]

The mechanics of the two energies are COMPLETELY different. Ki is spirtual based whilst Conduit Powers are genetics based. Already, they can't be equalized due to COMPLETELY different ways of operation. Remember, in that very same SBA quote, " as long as they are somehow similar and the mechanics are somehow compatible with the known mechanics behind the energies from different Verses.".

 

[DMUA]

mfw when you call the Amp a wrench

I could of sworn he actually hit it with a wrench

Hmm.... I guess I'll go back to the previous reasoning.

 

[Akreious]

Isn't the AMP basically just a glorified Wrench when not used by Cole? :L

 

[Theglassman12]

No, it's still an electric wrench.

 

[Schnee_One]

Cole focuses his powers through it, so yes it is.

 

[Theglassman12]

You sure?? I could've sworn it had electricity running through it when Zeke used it. Maybe it was the RFI that was doing the electricity.

 

[Akreious]

https://youtu.be/QjxzjufURSo?t=1h22m15s

It was the RFI that was expelling the electricity, the AMP had no signs of electricity going through it. So yeah, Glorified Wrench xD

 

[PTSOXMONKEY99]

All of you are ignorant FOOLS

ITS. A. TUNING. FORK.

Anyway, completely lost on votes

 

[Theglassman12]

Goku: 2

Cole: 1

 

[Schnee_One]

Goku is kinda outraged completely by Cole but does have the strength and skill advantage, inconclusive

 

[PTSOXMONKEY99]

Should noted that this Cole is >>> his "base" by a good bit, and now has a passive electrical aura that Goku needs to get through

 

[DMUA]

Still, a strong whack with a power pole will easily get past that and knock the RFI out of his hands if not break it.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Still, a strong whack with a power pole will easily get past that and knock the RFI out of his hands if not break it.

Isn't the RFI strapped to his back?

 

[Theglassman12]

He needs to pull the thing out in front of him to use it, and even then it takes time for it to happen.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

He needs to pull the thing out in front of him to use it, and even then it takes time for it to happen.

That's just when he wants to kill all conduits and cure the plague. Not something he'd do here.

 

[DMUA]

I was under the impression he'd have to hold it in his hands.

It's been long since I've seen an inFAMOUS playthrough.

Actually... Hmm, if Goku gets close, Cole can easily knock him back with a shockwave and keep firing on him. Electric Aura also helps here. And considering how good Cole's range game is, he could easily win. If Goku uses the power pole, Cole can easily dodge and keep firing, or just grab the power pole and slam Goku onto the ground. Or simply throw it into the distance.

But if Goku powers through with something like a Ki barrier Cole stands no chance in CQC. Though I don't think he can really do that in OG Dragon Ball.

So.... Seems like I'll have to go with the electric man still.

 

[Theglassman12]

Goku can just take off his weighted clothing and use afterimages to get around Cole and get the edge.

 

[DMUA]

Cole is just fine with Kessler pulling that sort of trickery.

 

[Theglassman12]

Kessler doesn't have afterimages, he just spammed short range teleporting to get up close to Cole.

 

[DMUA]

It's similar in the way he did it. He moved in a fashion that was hard to track with the naked eye, which is pretty much what Goku does but on a smaller scale.

 

[Theglassman12]

Ok, that's just an inferior version to what Goku can do as a kid.

 

[PTSOXMONKEY99]

Kessler doesn't teleport, he just moves so quick that it appears that he is teleporting. And Cole can keep track of teleporters and speedsters who move faster than his eyes can see with his Radar Sense.

 

[The_Wright_Way]

Cole's dealt with virtually every type of projectile Goku can throw at him at this point. Goku is superior up close but Cole is superior at a distance and I honestly think that the majority of the fight would be taking place at a distance. Cole's superior versatility when it comes to ranged attacks just flat out makes him the better suited to win this fight. Elertric grenades, tornados, and lightining bolts summoned from the sky just give Cole a lot more ways to attack from a distance than Goku can deal with at this point in time. Electric Grenades and telekinesis allow Cole superior control over the environment and the shock blast should be able to push Goku away should he get to close. Cole could easily disarm Goku of his power pole just by grabing it and throwing it into the distance. His radar sense can help him see through Goku's after images, and his ice shield can easily block most ki blasts. That's not even getting started on most of Cole's ice powers. Cole wins 6/10 times.

 

[Theglassman12]

You do know that I can say the same thing for Goku on him disarming Cole and throwing his stuff out as well right?

 

[PTSOXMONKEY99]

Alright, should be up to date with the votes, correct me if I misplaced your name

 

[Schnee_One]

Good luck on that to a dude who spams the crap out of flight.

Voting Cole FRA

 

[Theglassman12]

Goku can fly as well.

 

[Schnee_One]

I'm well aware, however what are the chances two people flying will try to go CQC against eachother especially in Cole's case.

 

[Theglassman12]

Very high considering we're using a dragon ball character that can fly.

 

[DMUA]

Shockwaves are a thing too.

 

[MrKingOfNegativity]

Goku is almost certain to go for CQC, since it's very common for him to do so in his home series. Probably his most preferred tactic, especially against people who can fly. And he's IT'd towards people for that sake as well, IIRC.

I don't have much of an opinion on this matchup, but I felt like putting that out there.

 

[PTSOXMONKEY99]

BUMP

 

[DMUA]

I swapped to electric man you know.

 

[PTSOXMONKEY99]

Gosh dangit