Las Noches Destruction Upgrade?

[RanaProGamer]

Note: This was not done by me, just by some dude who was debunking the downplay of Gran Ray Cero.

The energy it takes to destroy Las Noches
Las Noches calc

Nel who was previously a Espada states that it takes 3 Days to walk to the Enterance of the Las Noches. We can lowball this and say that Ichigo and his friends were at the edge of the Las Noches.
We get that 1 Side of the Las Noches has a Length of 725.76 Km with a Base with a surface area of 526,727.5776 Square Km. Using this we can get the radius of Las Noches. From the centre we get a radius of 513.18982 km. We can now use Air blast radius (near-total fatalities) Yield: Y = ((x/0.28)^3) with Y in kilotons of TNT and x in km.
The definition of near-total fatalities means states that: all large above-ground structures are destroyed within that radius, as well as causing 100% fatalities to anyone that is affected within the radius due to sheer pressure alone.
x = 513.18982 km
Y = ((513.18982/0.28)^3)
Y = 6,156,870,293.29 kilotons of TNT
Multiplying the value by 0.5. This is because only 40 to 50 percent of the total energy of the explosion is actually from the blast. 6,156,870,293.29/2 = 3,078,435,146.64 kilotons of TNT Ôê┤ It takes 3.07843514664 Teratons of TNT or 1.2880172653542e+22 Joules or Small Country level of energy to destroy Las Noches. It is stated that Gran Rey Cero should not be used in Las Noches According to Ulquiorra, two things are forbidden under the canopy of the Las Noches. The first is the Gran Rey Cero and other is the release by Espadas beyond Cuatro. As both are so powerful that they could destroy Las Noches by itself.

What are your thoughts on this? Does this upgrade a lot of characters?

 

[Naeblis495]

it should upgrade a lot of characthers but it will probably get dismissed along with all the statements found in bleach .

 

[Sekkonds.]

this is the currently accepted size

 

[RanaProGamer]

it should upgrade a lot of characthers but it will probably get dismissed along with all the statements found in bleach .

Why is that so?

 

[RanaProGamer]

this is the currently accepted size

So if we use that size that is currently accepted instead of the one on this calc, what would the overall calc turn out to be? Sorry, not good at doing calc.

 

[Naeblis495]

it should upgrade a lot of characthers but it will probably get dismissed along with all the statements found in bleach .

Why is that so?

don't know why

a lot a statements just get brushed off in favor of pixel scaling

same for multipliers or light speed feats , it's either not used at all or given the outlier treatment

 

[Zezu1995]

almost every other site has LN as country also it was bound to get here sometime... then we got the whole ress/bankai multiplier to add on to it

 

[Jesterofgames]

Why is that so?

Because from what I gather no visual we see of Los noches fit it being that big.

multiple character's statments at size are usually far bigger then what we see.

 

[Zezu1995]

my buddy had a good exsplaination to it also

theses are extra scans and explainations



GRC at work

 

[Dangai_Ichigo]

It wasn't a GRC it was a CO which is superior to GRC

 

[Zezu1995]

ok ty for correction so GRC is large island lvl then while CO is small country?

 

[Dangai_Ichigo]

If that's how you would describe it, yeah basically

 

[AppleLord]

Using Method 2 for the accepted size of Hueco Mundo.

L= 52 km / ¤Ç * 2 = 33.1042282 km

H= 12.8 km / ¤Ç * 2 = 8.14873309 km

l x w = 33.1042282(8.14873309) =

X= 269.757519752 km

Y= (269.757519752/0.28)^3)

Y= 894224543.586 Kilotons of TNT

894224543.586/2 = 447112271.793 Kilotons of TNT or 1.870717745181912e+21 Joules

447 Gigatons High 6-C Large Island Cero

 

[Ovy7]

Won't Las Noches get the same threatment as Seireitei when it comes to size, i.e. using just the 3 day statement?

Edit: If we only go by the statement, 6 days to walk around LN (3 days to the gate, then another 3 days to finish the travel around LN. I think this is the safest lowball), the lenght of LN would be of 120 km (5 km/h * 16h * 6d = 480km / 4 = 120 km). Based on the current calc, the hight of LN is 4.0625 times smaller than the lenght, so with the statement the new hight would be 120 / 4.0625 = 29.53 km.

Now, using those numbers in the calc above made by AppleLord:

L = 120km / ¤Ç * 2 = 76.394372684109761169064206418807

H = 29.53 / ¤Ç * 2 = 18.799381878014677061020550129561ÔǼ

l x w = 76.394372684109761169064206418807(18.799381878014677061020550129561ÔǼ) =

X = 1,436.1669854199525075541250633199ÔǼ

Y = (1,436.1669854199525075541250633199ÔǼ / 0.28 ) ^3)

Y = 134940005285.58 Kilotons of TNT

134940005285.58 / 2 = 67470002642.79 Kilotons of TNT

or 67.47 Teratonnes of TNT (6-B)

 

[The_Prince_of_Counters]

67 Teratons is country + iirc

 

[1997KD]

^its below 100teratons so it still country only

 

[AppleLord]

The hole on the wall made by Ichigo and Renji is on the corner of one of the longer walls which means it would take 6 days to cover the distance of one wall since the front doors are in the midde of a 3 day distance per each side.

Las Noches is a rectangle:

The front and back walls are a 6 day journey each around the entire castle while the two walls on the sides are half the current one's length, so 3 day walk each side. It will be a 18 day walk to go around the entire structure.

Remember that Kid Nel is the one walking this distance, so use a kids walking speed.

 

[MetalGearRaiden]

Remember that Kid Nel is the one walking this distance, so use a kids walking speed.

Kid Nel was seen to travel on the back of Bawabawa (or what was that worm thing called?)

using kids walking speed is not right,as i doubt Kid Nel ever traveled long enough on her own

 

[Dangai_Ichigo]

Remember that Kid Nel is the one walking this distance, so use a kids walking speed.

Kid Nel was seen to travel on the back of Bawabawa (or what was that worm thing called?)
using kids walking speed is not right,as i doubt Kid Nel ever traveled long enough on her own

So we use the Crawling speed of a giant worm ? Or in which case a ginat snake

 

[MetalGearRaiden]

So we use the Crawling speed of a giant worm ? Or in which case a ginat snake

sure,why not?that sounds fun

 

[Dangai_Ichigo]

Ok... So how fast are snakes ?

 

[Dangai_Ichigo]

The fastest snake in the world is also one of the deadliest. The black mamba (Dendroaspis polylepis) can move at speeds of up to 12.5 miles per hour (5.5 meters per second), and its bite can kill a human being in less than 30 minutes.

 

[AppleLord]

How do we intensify the snake's size? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

 

[Dangai_Ichigo]

I don't know

 

[MetalGearRaiden]

I don't know

thing is , Bawabawa isn't moving at his(her?) max speed for sure, so trying to scale him (her) to real life snakes absoltue max speed is kinda wrong

also, no matter how we scale Bawabawa, this will look like calc stacking (trying to measure Bawa's size,compare it to real life snake, calc the speed, calc the LN size from that speed, etc.)

using regular kids speed isn't right, cause most of the time Kid Nel is on the screen,she is carried by someone,so assuming she went on a full 12 day trip around LN by herself is wrong

using regular human walk speed is safer

also Bawabawa simply couldn't be slower, than regular human, as gang (Uryu,Ichi,chad) were in hurry,and simply would not travel on thing's back, if it were to slow them down too much

 

[AppleLord]

I can agree with that.

 

[Dangai_Ichigo]

Does anyone have a scan for the Gran Rey Cero ? Because someone there in the Discord I'm in thinks Gran Rey Cero is superior to Cero Oscuras

 

[AppleLord]

I did a Las Noches destruction calc by Gran Rey Cero.

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:AppleLord/Destruction_of_Las_Noches

 

[Aernasilver]

> Didn't account for rest time.

No.

 

[MetalGearRaiden]

> Didn't account for rest time.
No.

rest time is a lowball,that is not needed in this case,because ichigo's gang doesn't need alot of rest time (they do rest sometimes,but they sure as hell don't sleep while in Hueco Mundo)

and Orihime,the main reason we accepted the rest time for seireitei calc, is not with them

 

[AppleLord]

> Didn't account for rest time.

No.

Tell me one reason why should rest time be applied to characters that can fight, run and train without food or rest time for days, weeks and months. The feat scans can also be found in the calc.

 

[AppleLord]

rest time is a lowball,that is not needed in this case,because ichigo's gang doesn't need alot of rest time (they do rest sometimes,but they sure as hell don't sleep while in Hueco Mundo)

and Orihime,the main reason we accepted the rest time for seireitei calc, is not with them


Orihime is a fullbring who had the same training with Chad and Yoruichi before going to Soul Society and have shown speed and strength feats beyond a normal human. (Orihime isn't in this calc, so is irrelevant.)

 

[MetalGearRaiden]

Orihime is a fullbring who had the same training with Chad and Yoruichi before going to Soul Society and have shown speed and strength feats beyond a normal human. (Orihime isn't in this calc, so is irrelevant.)

i know about Orihime being superhuman,and i'm totally onboard with her needing no rest, yet i can somewhat tolerate her being used as an excuse to lowball Seireitei size

also do we have any stamina stetements BEFORE the vizored training?

 

[AppleLord]

Not directly, but after training with Ganju's sister they lost a lot of spiritual energy by putting their energy inside a ball and had to eat to replenish themselves before going to Seireitei. We also have stamina statements for Ichigo who fought Urahara five days and five nights straights and Uryu who drain all of his energy into a glove for seven days and nights straight.

 

[AppleLord]

I post all of the scans in the calc just in case.

 

[AppleLord]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:AppleLord/Destruction_of_Las_Noches