Lady Bone Demon vs Kaguya Otsutsuki (8-0-1) (GRACE)

[Sdjlakjh]

Okay what ability does amped kaguya have that makes this a stomp

Does amped Kaguya even helps tho? I dont remember this form gives her more wincons

 

[Sdjlakjh]

Then put both forms at peak.
not base where one is Unutterable in an advantage

If I gave LBD at her peak form, she has access to the Samadhi Fire that erase the entire multiverse

 

[KaydeeX]

Does amped Kaguya even helps tho? I dont remember this form gives her more wincons

6 layers of Genjutsu, Chakra reformation, Access to ETSB

 

[Sdjlakjh]

6 layers of Genjutsu, Chakra reformation, Access to ETSB

For Genjutsu, it's useless as she can still see through her countless essences surrounding Kaguya + ooc

Doesn't she already have that in base form?

 

[karo_senpaii]

For Genjutsu, it's useless as she can still see through her countless essences surrounding Kaguya + ooc

Doesn't she already have that in base form?

Genjutsu is mind manipulation and not just illusions lol. Kaguya is simply controlling her

 

[Lloydblitzed]

I never said kaguya wincons are irrelevant. I have infact told you that kaguya wins via normal genjutsu.

OOC move asf. She does not use that on combat

Like dude lady bone resist almost all if not all of her abilities in her amp.

What amp?
She has 0 resist to Deco, Paralysis and nothing to detect her Extraordinary Perception, same for TK. Paralysis alone renders any action based stuff useless as well, yet you call this a spite?

Then put both forms at peak.
not base where one is Unutterable in an advantage

LBD is restricted to base, put her at peak and find out how badly of a real stomp it will be

Only first keys for both characters
Lady Bone Demon is in her host form

 

[Lloydblitzed]

6 layers of Genjutsu, Chakra reformation, Access to ETSB

How fun guys, instead of putting Base LBD against Base Kaguya who can limit LBD to 2 wincoins with Amenominaka, let's give Kaguya around 8 wincoins, while LBD will only have 2

 

[Sdjlakjh]

Genjutsu is mind manipulation and not just illusions lol. Kaguya is simply controlling her

Thing is, Kaguya could only effect a few essences while LBD herself like a hivemind combination of at least a thousand essences

 

[karo_senpaii]

OOC move asf. She does not use that on combat

She uses it in combat lmao just that all her opponents are resitant. The people she used it against were people opposing her. She also used it against hamura.

What amp?
She has 0 resist to Deco, Paralysis and nothing to detect her Extraordinary Perception, same for TK. Paralysis alone renders any action based stuff useless as well, yet you call this a spite?

Her IT amp. She resist like all the abilities she gains. The only thing kaguya gets is a speed boost. All this mumbling and you have yet to provide a reasoning for kaguya restriction.

And just incase I wasn't clear. Kaguya puts her under genjutsu and it is over

 

[karo_senpaii]

How fun guys, instead of putting Base LBD against Base Kaguya who can limit LBD to 2 wincoins with Amenominaka, let's give Kaguya around 8 wincoins, while LBD will only have 2

That's not how vs battle works. Just coz someone has more wincons does not give you he right to restrict them because you want the other character to win. As long as it is no a stomp a restriction is not necessary.. kaguya has more wincons yes that's why she wins lmao

 

[KaydeeX]

LBD is restricted to base, put her at peak and find out how badly of a real stomp it will be

Alright, put it up.

 

[Sdjlakjh]

Alright, put it up.

Uh if I gave LBD her peak form, this would happen

 

[Lloydblitzed]

The only thing kaguya gets is a speed boost. All this mumbling and you have yet to provide a reasoning for kaguya restriction.

With what u said, Kaguya would hax stomp

And just incase I wasn't clear. Kaguya puts her under genjutsu and it is over

While LBD blows her up to death with TK attacks

Alright, put it up.

• Fire Manipulation, Existence Erasure, Soul Erasure, Statistics Amplification, Reality Warping, Durability Negation and Space-Time Manipulation (Has the powers of the Samadhi Fire, who's flames are inextinguishable and capable of burning through the very fabric of reality, Able to bypass the physical body and erase the soul inside. Can increase her stats using the Samadhi Fire)

 

[KaydeeX]

Uh if I gave LBD her peak form, this would happen

That’s if she’s not under IT instantly

 

[Lloydblitzed]

That’s if she’s not under IT instantly

When will bro learn IT doesn't work on the undeads

 

[KaydeeX]

With what u said, Kaguya would hax stomp


While LBD blows her up to death with TK attacks

Kaguya is resistant

 

[Sdjlakjh]

That’s if she’s not under IT instantly

IT doesn't work on undead + LBD would stay inside her big mech and just erase everything

 

[KaydeeX]

When will bro learn IT doesn't work on the undeads

that is limited to Edo tensei not just “un deads” generally
False equivalence

IT doesn't work on undead + LBD would stay inside her big mech and just erase everythin

Staying in an enclosed space won’t still stop IT with the exception of Sasuke susano cloak.

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Kaguya is resistant

She gets one shotted by a expanding SF blast before she does anything, and Kaguya doesn't resist Soul Erasure

 

[karo_senpaii]

With what u said, Kaguya would hax stomp


While LBD blows her up to death with TK attacks

No. You've yet to mention kaguya amped hax that makes this a stomp

Genjutsu is mind and perception based. Yeah no lbd would be under genjutsu before she can do anything.

 

[Lloydblitzed]

that is limited to Edo tensei not just “un deads” generally

Show me a non Edo Tensei undead being affected by IT

False equivalence

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[Sdjlakjh]

Staying in an enclosed space won’t still stop IT with the exception of Sasuke susano cloak.

Was there instances that it can effect people inside enclosed space?

 

[KaydeeX]

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Verse eq equalizes energy systems not fundamental qualities.

She gets one shotted by a expanding SF blast before she does anything, and Kaguya doesn't resist Soul Erasure

Speed is equalized so it won’t really blitz her. She can swap dimension if it’s range is large.
IT on the other hand is instantly affecting LBD

 

[KaydeeX]

Was there instances that it can affect people inside enclosed space?

It affected everyone in the world
Not everyone will be outside chilling

 

[karo_senpaii]

Was there instances that it can effect people inside enclosed space?

Yes it affected people inside houses and even animals borrowed under the earth.

Also why are you assuming LBD just sees light coming at her and knows "oh wow that's 7layers of MM, i have to dodge"

 

[Sdjlakjh]

Yes it affected people inside houses and even animals borrowed under the earth.

Also why are you assuming LBD just sees light coming at her and knows "oh wow that's 7layers of MM, i have to dodge"

Can you show that?

Um because LBD first move with the samadhi fire is just erase everything? She would do this move but with the fire btw

 

[Lloydblitzed]

No. You've yet to mention kaguya amped hax that makes this a stomp

With what u said, Kaguya would hax stomp

Read again

Genjutsu is mind and perception based. Yeah no lbd would be under genjutsu before she can do anything.

SF is activated without any actions needed

Verse eq equalizes energy systems not fundamental qualities.

Speed is equalized so it won’t really blitz her. She can swap dimension if it’s range is large.

Do we have to go over the obvious AGAIN?

Range: Low Multiversal with her blasts (Was able to create a blast that reached the Celestial Realm)

The video SJ previously sent also blantly gives away that even the SF's range is Low Multi

IT on the other hand is instantly affecting LBD

Show me IT working on any undead being

 

[Lloydblitzed]

Yes it affected people inside houses and even animals borrowed under the earth.

Ye cuz they looked at the light

Also why are you assuming LBD just sees light coming at her and knows "oh wow that's 7layers of MM, i have to dodge"

• Clairvoyance and Precognition (Able to see the future through her dreams. Able to see that her getting the Samadhi Fire was fated, no need for Mayor to get it directly)

 

[karo_senpaii]

Can you show that?

Um because LBD first move with the samadhi fire is just erase everything? She would do this move but with the fire btw

No need, it's on her profile. Also no reason LBD would see light and then close herself lol.
Yeah this video I see her gesture. Genjutsu is thought based. She would be under it before anything happens.

Read again

SF is activated without any actions needed

Do I need to explain again that kaguya has no extra abilities amped that LDB does not resist?

Also no if I does not require action it is passive..it isn't so yeah does. If it is thought or perception based kaguya is still faster due to the sharingan perception being over shunshin and chidori blitz level of amps

 

[karo_senpaii]

Ye cuz they looked at the light

• Clairvoyance and Precognition (Able to see the future through her dreams. Able to see that her getting the Samadhi Fire was fated, no need for Mayor to get it directly)

Lmao you're telling me LBD is going to quickly dream as the fight starts?

 

[Sdjlakjh]

No need, it's on her profile. Also no reason LBD would see light and then close herself lol.
Yeah this video I see her gesture. Genjutsu is thought based. She would be under it before anything happens.

I mean even if you managed to put LBD under genjutsu, the blast wouldn't just magically disappear and still erase everything (LBD activates her fire with thought based)

 

[KaydeeX]

Do we have to go over the obvious AGAIN?
The video SJ previously sent also blantly gives away that even the SF's range is Low Multi

Affecting 3 realms≠affecting all of Kaguya 6 dimensions

Show me IT working on any undead being

I don’t have to, What you’re omitting is a non-sequitur fallacy. Which is where the conclusion does not logically follow from the premises. In formal logic, a sound argument requires that each conclusion directly and rationally follows from the preceding premises.

A specific type of Undead, whose souls are linked to the pure land and are consistently shown to resist genjutsu by shutting off their minds, being unaffected by the IT, does not imply that all Undead are resistant to genjutsu.

 

[karo_senpaii]

I mean even if you managed to put LBD under genjutsu, the blast wouldn't just magically disappear and still erase everything (LBD activates her fire with thought based)

The point is kaguya would put her under genjutsu before she does that. Sharinan makes kaguya way faster. Also if by some odd chance both activate at same time kaguya can just instantly teleport away. Her teleportation is also thought based

 

[Robo432343]

LBD fumbling hard

 

[Sdjlakjh]

The point is kaguya would put her under genjutsu before she does that. Sharinan makes kaguya way faster. Also if by some odd chance both activate at same time kaguya can just instantly teleport away. Her teleportation is also thought based

Uh I don't think Kaguya can teleport away from a fire that has higher range than her interdimensional ones (her realms are only approved to be solar sized as I remember)

Also don't forget this

Thing is, Kaguya could only effect a few essences while LBD herself like a hivemind combination of at least a thousand essences

 

[Robo432343]

bro who keeps saying LBD starts with mind hax

 

[karo_senpaii]

LBD fumbling hard

Who's your vote for?

Uh I don't think Kaguya can teleport away from a fire that has higher range than her interdimensional ones (her realms are only approved to be solar sized as I remember)

Also don't forget this

1. Just coz you have low multi range does not mean you will fire all your attacks that range like bro come one.
Also space times in Naruto have specifics coordinates that make them disconnected that If you don't know them you can't access them. Just coz you have low multi range does not mean you can acesss all dimensions

2. That is irrelevant bro. Let her house a billion..if she doesn't have resistance to the layers it is pointless

 

[KaydeeX]

I’m voting Kaguya for I and Karo's reason

 

[Sdjlakjh]

1. Just coz you have low multi range does not mean you will fire all your attacks that range like bro come one.
Also space times in Naruto have specifics coordinates that make them disconnected that If you don't know them you can't access them. Just coz you have low multi range does not mean you can acesss all dimensions

2. That is irrelevant bro. Let her house a billion..if she doesn't have resistance to the layers it is pointless

The Samadhi pulls up an AOE attack that destroys the entire 3 realms and everything beyond it which includes the Chaos realm btw. The outside realm that contains the current 3 realms (that yellow circle thing is the entire LMK existence btw while that big hand and everything else is the Chaos realm)

You need to prove Kaguya able to use her genjutsu on multiple

 

[Sdjlakjh]

I’m voting Kaguya for I and Karo's reason

Also reminder we are only using first keys for both chars so Kaguya doesnt have access to those genjutsu stuff or LBD with her samadhi