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Fusion Zamasu vs Lady Bone Demon [1-8-0] (GRACE ENDED)

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RedReaper616 said:
Zamasu can probe minds with his Far Seeing Arts, and with Goku’s powers (of which he has said to have gained all), he should have the ability to outright read her mind, so he could totally find out. He also can deduce things mid-combat via his info analysis based on the way she fights (she’s LITERALLY A ZONER), and would probably figure out her body is waaaaay weaker than her output. I also forgot to mention that due to relying on a Vessel, any damage she takes (which she will take, the Scythe negs her durability), is critical and if injured too badly she starts literally cracking and loses power/focus. It’s why she had to possess Wukong to begin with, because otherwise she was going to get splattered. And Zamasu is a more haxy Wukong.
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Thing is, fused Zamasu never have used any of those abilities when fightin the main casts like Goku, Vegeta and Vegito. As being too much in overconfidence or simply stupid
 
She does utilize some sort of glyph to do so, though. A good example is when she drained MK of his size changing powers—And it took substantially longer to do so. (3:51 of the same vid). While it’s not too much longer, it’s an important amount of time, as Zamasu can just teleport away.
 
RedReaper616 said:
She does utilize some sort of glyph to do so, though. A good example is when she drained MK of his size changing powers—And it took substantially longer to do so. (3:51 of the same vid). While it’s not too much longer, it’s an important amount of time, as Zamasu can just teleport away.
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She will just track him down and follow him
 
Sdjlakjh said:
Thing is, fused Zamasu never have used any of those abilities when fightin the main casts like Goku, Vegeta and Vegito. As being too much in overconfidence or simply stupid
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There’s also the fact he straight up didn’t need to. The arc and its questions revolved around himself, and he already knew everything about the Z-Fighters. There was nothing to learn (except specifically when Vegeta got an explosive growth in strength, and he figured that out on his own in like, a minute).
 
RedReaper616 said:
She does utilize some sort of glyph to do so, though. A good example is when she drained MK of his size changing powers—And it took substantially longer to do so. (3:51 of the same vid). While it’s not too much longer, it’s an important amount of time, as Zamasu can just teleport away.
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I was thinking Zamasu would try to teleport and just...couldn't. Or he would teleport, then Lady Bone Demon would teleport to him and keep using Power Absorption.
 
Catbowtie said:
I was thinking Zamasu would try to teleport and just...couldn't. Or he would teleport, then Lady Bone Demon would teleport to him and keep using Power Absorption.
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Her absorption is limited to when her target specifically uses a power. As Tang says: “As you use MORE power, she gets stronger.” It’s why she has to get MK to utilize them one by one rather than going whole hog. So presumably she would teleport, follow, and…well, get nothing because he has to use his powers again.

Edit: She’s still fully able to mind donut him though.
 
Lloydblitzed said:
Usually, her mind hax
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How quickly would Lady Bone Demon switch to her Power Absorption after she sees Zamasu consistently dodge Mind Manipulation and attack her? Do you think it's possible for Zamasu to KO or kill Lady Bone Demon in the time when Lady Bone Demon is using Mind Manipulation?
 
I mean, the real question is would Zamasu bring out his scythe fast enough? He really only has to cut her once and she dies. It’s just slower than mind donuting someone at a glance once you’re done messing around.
 
Holy crap you guys talk fast.

RedReaper616 said:
Her absorption is limited to when her target specifically uses a power. As Tang says: “As you use MORE power, she gets stronger.” It’s why she has to get MK to utilize them one by one rather than going whole hog. So presumably she would teleport, follow, and…well, get nothing because he has to use his powers again.
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It depends on when she started using Power Absorption and the parameters of the ability. If she activates Power Absorption and it immediately takes effect, then that's bad for Zamasu. Does her Power Absorption work if a person uses an ability period? Lady Bone Demon does say "Trying to shrink? That's not going to work anymore," but the guy (I don't know his name) didn't look to try to shrink(?)


RedReaper616 said:
I mean, the real question is would Zamasu bring out his scythe fast enough? He really only has to cut her once and she dies. It’s just slower than mind donuting someone at a glance once you’re done messing around.
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Zamasu starts with Ki Blades (Which should basically just be a mini-version of the Scythe)
 
RedReaper616 said:
I mean, the real question is would Zamasu bring out his scythe fast enough? He really only has to cut her once and she dies. It’s just slower than mind donuting someone at a glance once you’re done messing around.
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I don't think once is enough tho? As LBD can split her own essence, duplicating herself
 
Catbowtie said:
Holy crap you guys talk fast.


It depends on when she started using Power Absorption and the parameters of the ability. If she activates Power Absorption and it immediately takes effect, then that's bad for Zamasu. Does her Power Absorption work if a person uses an ability period? Lady Bone Demon does say "Trying to shrink? That's not going to work anymore," but the guy (I don't know his name) didn't look to try to shrink(?)
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He does try. MK has to focus his thoughts to shapeshift (“Think small,”), but it doesn’t matter because he already used that power, (“It won’t work. You ALREADY USED THAT POWER.”) It’s why MK goes (“Not all of them. HERE COMES-“) because he’s tapping into a power she hasn’t yet sapped. It’s individualistic. He must utilize an ability, she takes it. So on and so forth.
 
Catbowtie said:
How quickly would Lady Bone Demon switch to her Power Absorption after she sees Zamasu consistently dodge Mind Manipulation and attack her? Do you think it's possible for Zamasu to KO or kill Lady Bone Demon in the time when Lady Bone Demon is using Mind Manipulation?
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Well in extreme cases (like when her body was already damaged), she's capable of leaving her vessel and still use her abilities freely. And even if Zamasu evade Mind Control, he would still have to deal with Fear Manip and Illusion Creation (Illusion capable of harming the victim), as well as her own Dura Negation

She can also split herself into shadows and corrupt Zamasu
 
Sdjlakjh said:
I don't think once is enough tho? As LBD can split her own essence, duplicating herself
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When Wukong challenged her and nearly killed her, nearly defeating her main vessel in a moment was enough. So presumably getting cut in half would do the job.
 
RedReaper616 said:
When Wukong challenged her and nearly killed her, nearly defeating her main vessel in a moment was enough. So presumably getting cut in half would do the job.
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Well it wouldn't kill her permanently, you saw when LBD was possessing multiple bull clones at season 1
 
Can Lady Bone Demon absorb the powers of the Time Ring?


Lloydblitzed said:
Well in extreme cases (like when her body was already damaged), she's capable of leaving her vessel and still use her abilities freely. And even if Zamasu evade Mind Control, he would still have to deal with Fear Manip and Illusion Creation (Illusion capable of harming the victim), as well as her own Dura Negation

She can also split herself into shadows and corrupt Zamasu
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Her Mind Manipulation, Illusion Creation, Pain Manipulation, Durability Negation and Fear Manipulation are all separate? They're displayed as being all within the same package. Dura Negation is something Zamasu has no answer for, other than dodging, so that would be a win for Lady Bone Demon when she hits it. I don't think Zamasu would get hit by the shadows. Seeing something demonic emerging from Lady Bone Demon and coming at him would make his first thoughts go "Hm, another demonic technique of yours?" but he'd dodge it. Also, the shadows are corrupting...looks to be empty knight armor? Is the minotaur guy also corrupted?


Zamasu can also attack Lady Bone Demon while she's in her True Form.
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Lloydblitzed said:
She seems to be able to heal from that tho
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From getting her entire torso separated from her waist?


Zamasu is also firing off these techniques in the fight too:
  • Blades of Judgment: Fusion Zamasu summons an array of red orbs that turn themselves into needles that descend and surround the targets before detonating, leaving little opportunity for escape.
  • Lightning of Absolution: Fusion Zamasu fires off bolts of purple electricity to attack his foes. This attack was powerful enough to incapacitate Vegeta. He can increase the area of effect by generating a giant bird-like creature out of his Ki.
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Catbowtie said:
Can Lady Bone Demon absorb the powers of the Time Ring?
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Definitely not. It operates on Higher Timelines. She’d be trying something beyond her, which is a canon weakness her powers have.
Catbowtie said:
Her Mind Manipulation, Illusion Creation, Pain Manipulation, Durability Negation and Fear Manipulation are all separate? They're displayed as being all within the same package. Dura Negation is something Zamasu has no answer for, other than dodging, so that would be a win for Lady Bone Demon when she hits it. I don't think Zamasu would get hit by the shadows. Seeing something demonic emerging from Lady Bone Demon and coming at him would make his first thoughts go "Hm, another demonic technique of yours?" but he'd dodge it. Also, the shadows are corrupting...looks to be empty knight armor? Is the minotaur guy also corrupted?
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Yes, the Minotaur is corrupted.
Catbowtie said:
Zamasu is also firing off these techniques in the fight too:
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The Lightning isn’t allowed, currently.
 
Catbowtie said:
Her Mind Manipulation, Illusion Creation, Pain Manipulation, Durability Negation and Fear Manipulation are all separate?
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Its displayed like this but Mind Control is seperate from the other "Mind Manipulation" which is connected to the Dura neg part

Catbowtie said:
Also, the shadows are corrupting...looks to be empty knight armor?
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It isn't empty, the knights were just knocked down at the moment
Catbowtie said:
Is the minotaur guy also corrupted?
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Yes
Catbowtie said:
Zamasu can also attack Lady Bone Demon while she's in her True Form.
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She can use the opportunity to just activate her mind haxes out of sight, and he's cooked

Catbowtie said:
Zamasu is also firing off these techniques in the fight too:
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Can evade those with Teleportation
 
Wait when did LBD profile got made and can someone fix MK profile as well his ass should be 2-C as well
 
RedReaper616 said:
That was after she had time to re-compose herself. This is also pretty clearly echoed when she dies against everyone. She wasn’t able to come back from one big golden bonk after going critical. So presumably Zamasu just needs to split her in two fast enough to prevent her from focusing and coming back.
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She also has the AP advantage here, so one punch from her would end Zamasu as well

She can also spam him with Crystals and use TP to evade his Scythe, and then use Corruption or the Fear/Illusion/Dura Neg combo on him
 
Would Lady Bone Demon use Mind Manipulation and Power Absorption at the same time? Or any other one of her abilities at the same time of another?
 
Catbowtie said:
Would Lady Bone Demon use Mind Manipulation and Power Absorption at the same time? Or any other one of her abilities at the same time of another?
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Well she can use the Illusion/Fear Manip/Dura Neg all at once. The Power Absorption is like some passive ability she can activate and then use other abilities during its utilization. She can also use Flight at the same time as any of her hax, and can combo the Electricity/Shadow Manip/Size Manip (tbh useless against Zamasu), and she can combo Duplication and Corruption
 
Zamasu can just blow up the immediate area if he's mad enough. Zamasu likes to be a Punch-Kick-Sword-Ki blast Merchant though. Doesn't Lady Bone Demon's body just blow up when Zamasu hits her with a Ki blast?
 
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