Kratos vs Nihilus

[PaChi2]

This is probably a mismatch. Anyway.

Kratos and Darth Nihilus

SBA.

The fight takes place in Mt. Olympus.

Ready? go!



Darth Nihilus, Lord of Hunger

 

[The_Everlasting]

Nihilus stands there.

Alternatively, Nihilus talks.

 

[PaChi2]

Doesnt Kratos resurrect if that happens?

 

[The_Everlasting]

The standing there thing would either instantly turn him into Nihilus' servant, soul suck him, or do both.

 

[Schnee_One]

Doesnt Kratos resurrect if that happens?

No since mindscrew means he gets controlled, he doesn't die.

 

[Kepekley23]

Kratos takes his soul back, since he has done it before.

 

[Schnee_One]

The standing there thing would either instantly turn him into Nihilus' servant, soul suck him, or do both.

Latter won't work

First does however

 

[The_Everlasting]

Kratos takes his soul back.

Funny thing is that that works against him.

 

[Kepekley23]

Kratos can take his soul back before it even leaves his body, he has several feats of this during his battle against Hades.

Also, Kratos can resist and tank Zeus's fear manip which was literally Zeus empowered by the very concept. I don't know if Nihilus has the feats to mindscrew.

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Genuinely surprised no one has put Nihilus against The Burning Princess, yet.

Anyway, how good is Kratos' resistance to mind manipulation? Because that's kind of a massive factor, here.

 

[The_Everlasting]

Fear and mind control are different things.

Also let's not jump straight to concept with this.

 

[The_Everlasting]

Genuinely surprised no one has put Nihilus against The Burning Princess, yet.

>No soul resistance

gg

 

[Schnee_One]

Genuinely surprised no one has put Nihilus against The Burning Princess, yet.

Anyway, how good is Kratos' resistance to mind manipulation? Because that's kind of a massive factor, here.

Not enough

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

>No soul resistance

gg

Literally every psyker who is remotely on the positive end of the spectrum has resistance to Soul Manipulation.

 

[Kepekley23]

I'm not lying with the concept things, since all of the negative and positive concepts were created by the Primordials in their battle, passed around again in the battle against the Titans and locked away in Pandora's Box.

Fear Zeus is Zeus + the concept of fear, and PoH Kratos is Kratos + concept of hope. And Zeus was killing himself when he tried to punch Kratos or mindscrew.

 

[Schnee_One]

Nihlus can mindhax a planet with millions on it with his look

GG no re

 

[The_Everlasting]

@Azzy

And yet it's not in her power set.

@Kep

Is that really how it works though? Though I remember way too little about GoW to say.

 

[Kepekley23]

Pretty sure Athena outright said it.

 

[ThePerpetual]

(Gets out popcorn)

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

@Azzy
And yet it's not in her power set.

Because in almost every case, a psyker is able to resist the same things they can do.

Though I can add it, if you wish.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Nihilus stands there.
Alternatively, Nihilus talks.

This. There is absolutely nothing on the God of War universe that can stand up to Nihilus' sheer power and hax.

 

[Schnee_One]

Uhh

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Also the concept stuff is 100% unfounded.

 

[Kepekley23]

Pulled the cutscene.

Athena says fear, greed, and hate were created when the Gods clashed against the Titans, which infected Zeus's reign. As a result, Zeus commanded Hephaestus to build Pandora's Box to lock away all of those things so they could not affect mankind.

In the same cutscene, Athena says Kratos released all of these things to Zeus's reign again. She then realizes near the end of the game that Zeus was taken over by the very concept of fear from Pandora's Box, with Fear Zeus being basically Zeus with this power.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Except this is obviously false as the Titans and even the Primordials were motivated by things such as these. The Primordials warred, Gaia took revenge on Uranus, Cronos became paranoid and ate his sons, and Rhea lived in fear of him.

 

[Kepekley23]

Yes. That part, the Gods and the Titans's clash creating them, was retconned by Ascension. Everything else is true, though.

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

I just proved it isn't m8. And I don't see how concept shit is saving Kratos from being spoken to death here.

 

[PaChi2]

>Spoken to death.

We just got to the point this is legit.

 

[Kepekley23]

Bro, you proved the Titans creating the concepts wasn't true. Not Zeus sealing them inside the box, which is literally said by both Athena and Zeus.

If it wasn't true, GOW III would make no sense, since it relies on this specific bit of lore to tie it all together.

 

[Kepekley23]

Also, I have to point out someone forgot to put Mind Manip on Nihilus's profile...

EDIT: Nevermind. His Telepathy apparently makes up for it.

Also going to sleep right now, so I'll see how this all turned d out tomorrow.

 

[PaChi2]

Bumping this

 

[Kepekley23]

Nobody replied, so.

If Nihilus's mindscrew gets around Kratos's resistance, the Ghost of Sparta is done. But otherwise, Kratos will just keep resurrecting if he dies and use time-stop.

 

[Schnee_One]

I see no reason it wouldn't

 

[Kepekley23]

I still have trouble interpreting what Fear Zeus did.

Kratos retreats to his mindscape after dying, and after he acquires the PoH and resurrects, Zeus can no longer do anything to him at all. So I don't know if it'd be just fear manip or mind manip.

 

[Schnee_One]

Even then.

How good is his fear Manipulation compared to Nihlus's Mind screw?

 

[Kepekley23]

I explained it several posts ago

 

[Kepekley23]

TBH, Nihilus probably still wins. If he doesn't kill Kratos, that is.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

he kills his soul rip.

Him resisting soul rip from Hades is irrelevant to the fact that had Hades consumed his soul, he would be dead for good. And this isn't soul consumption, it is soul destruction.

 

[Kepekley23]

Kratos has an extra soul, remember?

EDIT: Probably still loses as long as he doesn't die.