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Knight vs Knight.

Greatsage13th

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Reinhard van Astrea

Reinhard van Astrea is the current Sword Saint and a member of the Royal Guard, currently acting as Felt's knight. Reinhard became the Sword Saint at the age of 5, after which he immediately defeated his father, Heinkel Astrea, in a duel. He is extraordinarily powerful and stated to be the...
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Markus Kruber

Markus Kruber, also known as Markus de Mandelot, is one of the five playable Heroes in Vermintide 2. In official media, he is usually seen in partial armor, wearing a feathered hat and wielding a Two-Handed Sword or Halberd. As a sergeant, Markus Kruber led the 8th Ostland Swordsmen to victory...
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High 6-C Grail knight Markus is used.

Speed equalized

Both 5 kilometers apart.

Battle takes place in Minnesota.
 
Soooo... Kruber massively upscales from 510 Gigatons which was done with a simple wingflap, he resists Reinhard's matter hax on multiple levels, he can regen basically anything Reinhard can do and outskills to a pretty ludicrous degree because bloodthirsters are kind of broken skill-wise.

When I suggested Kruber to you I should've noted that Grail Knight Kruber is usually overkill lmfao
 
Greatsage13th said:
That's way too soon to decide. ^^ll
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I mean, it's a Warhammer Fantasy High 6-C, they're almost always broken in one way or another lmfao

For instance, Thorgrim Grudgebearer has damage reduction that tanks attacks that should've badly injured him with little damage and is more skilled than even Kruber is, and he's one of the weaker High 6-Cs in-verse lol
 
DaReaperMan said:
I mean, it's a Warhammer Fantasy High 6-C, they're almost always broken in one way or another lmfao

For instance, Thorgrim Grudgebearer has damage reduction that tanks attacks that should've badly injured him with little damage and is more skilled than even Kruber is, and he's one of the weaker High 6-Cs in-verse lol
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spatial cut would ignore that wouldn't it?
 
Greatsage13th said:
How about powernull and absorbtion?
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Unless this powernull works on a conceptual level tough luck touching Thorgrim's frankly limited hax, and Absorption is a classic Chaos ability, Thorgrim resists it just like he resists spatial manipulation, for reference he and this Kruber resist the entirety of Aethyr Manipulation

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Aethyr Manipulation

As Volans, the first Patriarch of the Colleges of Magic so aptly sums it up, the Aethyr is the Void, the final element of existence - the intangible element that has no visible or quantifiable form in it's own right. It has no dimension, mass or volume yet is still everywhere. It has no...
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Which is all this wall of hax and shit
 
DaReaperMan said:
Unless this powernull works on a conceptual level tough luck touching Thorgrim's frankly limited hax, and Absorption is a classic Chaos ability, Thorgrim resists it just like he resists spatial manipulation, for reference he and this Kruber resist the entirety of Aethyr Manipulation

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Aethyr Manipulation

As Volans, the first Patriarch of the Colleges of Magic so aptly sums it up, the Aethyr is the Void, the final element of existence - the intangible element that has no visible or quantifiable form in it's own right. It has no dimension, mass or volume yet is still everywhere. It has no...
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Which is all this wall of hax and shit
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Damnit. This is a mismatch. How about if Reinhard was replaced with Reid?
 
Greatsage13th said:
Concept and spacetime duraneg and sword mastery superior to Reinhard's.
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Okay it's still resisted, and if you want a massive summary of the chain leading to Thorgrim...

Saurus Warriors, creatures born with the inherent knowledge and skills of combat of their entire species, with the instinctive know how of tactics and warfare that even they themselves cannot explain, and who can live for thousands of years honing and building on these skills with experience and training, who are comparable to Elven Soldiers who train for hundreds to thousands of years in the greatest military schools in the world<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Swordsmasters of Hoeth, High Elven warriors who are trained from birth to be the greatest swordsmen the Elves could produce, who spend hundreds to thousands of years doing nothing but mastering swordsmanship, a single Swordmaster of Hoeth is able to kill thousands of the standard elves mentioned prior, killing so many that they choke an entire river with bodies, WHILE simultanously deflecting dozens if not hundreds of projectiles from ranged foes. And are so skilled in combat that they are able to simply pitch the tune of a whistle to instantly kill someone or by a single touch to the right spot. They are heroes of thousands of battles each.<<<Blade Lord, swordmasters who stand head and foot over other Swordmasters, having utterly perfected their skills to such a degree that they are able to lead entire legions of other Swordsmasters and teach them what they know. <<<< Blood Dragons, master warriors in life, these vampires have dedicated their entire unlife to martial prowess and battle, to the point where they have mastered every single weapon and form of combat to have ever existed to such a degree that they can completely predict what you are going to do soley because they know how to do it too, and likely better. They are also comparable to Khornate Champions who are able to have a single force of a 80 khornate berserkers could go out and slay so many armies and monsters sent after them in a desert, that they created a literal giant flowing river of blood that became a landmark that exists decades later<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< young Malekith, who treats Swordmasters and Bladelords with barely any a thought, less than children as he cleaves through them by the hundreds. <<< Pre-Everchosen Archaon, who is able to slay over a dozen perfect clones of himself (so exact to the point that each clone thought they were Archaon, and has fought off an army of wraiths of previous Everchosen and dead potential Everchosen, each one being above every single previously mentioned thing in skill)<<BloodThirsters, who know all there is to know of warfare and battle, and have dedicated their lives to nothing but killing everything for their god<<<<<<< modern Malekith, who has spent 10,000 years honing his abilities both mental and physical to make himself the greatest singular warrior in all of the Dark Elf Empire and is comparable if not outright superior to characters like Ungrim and Thorgrim who are able to fight flawlessly into hordes of MILLIONS of Skaven
 
DaReaperMan said:
Okay it's still resisted, and if you want a massive summary of the chain leading to Thorgrim...

Saurus Warriors, creatures born with the inherent knowledge and skills of combat of their entire species, with the instinctive know how of tactics and warfare that even they themselves cannot explain, and who can live for thousands of years honing and building on these skills with experience and training, who are comparable to Elven Soldiers who train for hundreds to thousands of years in the greatest military schools in the world<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Swordsmasters of Hoeth, High Elven warriors who are trained from birth to be the greatest swordsmen the Elves could produce, who spend hundreds to thousands of years doing nothing but mastering swordsmanship, a single Swordmaster of Hoeth is able to kill thousands of the standard elves mentioned prior, killing so many that they choke an entire river with bodies, WHILE simultanously deflecting dozens if not hundreds of projectiles from ranged foes. And are so skilled in combat that they are able to simply pitch the tune of a whistle to instantly kill someone or by a single touch to the right spot. They are heroes of thousands of battles each.<<<Blade Lord, swordmasters who stand head and foot over other Swordmasters, having utterly perfected their skills to such a degree that they are able to lead entire legions of other Swordsmasters and teach them what they know. <<<< Blood Dragons, master warriors in life, these vampires have dedicated their entire unlife to martial prowess and battle, to the point where they have mastered every single weapon and form of combat to have ever existed to such a degree that they can completely predict what you are going to do soley because they know how to do it too, and likely better. They are also comparable to Khornate Champions who are able to have a single force of a 80 khornate berserkers could go out and slay so many armies and monsters sent after them in a desert, that they created a literal giant flowing river of blood that became a landmark that exists decades later<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< young Malekith, who treats Swordmasters and Bladelords with barely any a thought, less than children as he cleaves through them by the hundreds. <<< Pre-Everchosen Archaon, who is able to slay over a dozen perfect clones of himself (so exact to the point that each clone thought they were Archaon, and has fought off an army of wraiths of previous Everchosen and dead potential Everchosen, each one being above every single previously mentioned thing in skill)<<BloodThirsters, who know all there is to know of warfare and battle, and have dedicated their lives to nothing but killing everything for their god<<<<<<< modern Malekith, who has spent 10,000 years honing his abilities both mental and physical to make himself the greatest singular warrior in all of the Dark Elf Empire and is comparable if not outright superior to characters like Ungrim and Thorgrim who are able to fight flawlessly into hordes of MILLIONS of Skaven
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Oh El No. This is a REAL mismatch.
 
Greatsage13th said:
It's not like Markus can stop time right...?
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Nah, he only scales to dodging literal rains of projectiles in this key and beating witch sight, no big deal, only being a massive dodge-god and being able to beat folks who can conceptually see his exact intentions
 
DaReaperMan said:
Nah, he only scales to dodging literal rains of projectiles in this key and beating witch sight, no big deal, only being a massive dodge-god and being able to beat folks who can conceptually see his exact intentions
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Does that include cyclones, meteor, floods and glacier?
 
Greatsage13th said:
...still didn't get the Monty Python reference.
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That one was a Leprechaun reference(Namely "**** you lucky charms"), the first one wasn't a reference and was basically me saying that Boi would likely be dead by the time he even got to throw things like that around, not that it'd work anyway, but regardless
 
DaReaperMan said:
That one was a Leprechaun reference(Namely "**** you lucky charms"), the first one wasn't a reference and was basically me saying that Boi would likely be dead by the time he even got to throw things like that around, not that it'd work anyway, but regardless
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He does that in pretty much single hand swipes.
 
Greatsage13th said:
He does that in pretty much single hand swipes.
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Oh no, a flood! proceeds to either slaughter Boi or just facetank it cause floods don't have very high AP regardless

Oh no, a Cyclone! proceeds to be unaffected by it due to Class T LS

Oh no, a Meteor! literally strolls out of where it'd hit
 
DaReaperMan said:
Oh no, a flood! proceeds to either slaughter Boi or just facetank it cause floods don't have very high AP regardless

Oh no, a Cyclone! proceeds to be unaffected by it due to Class T LS

Oh no, a Meteor! literally strolls out of where it'd hit
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A meteor about more than 2 kilometers in size. You can't just stroll out of that.
 
Well, Supersonic if I recall, but regardless, unless it's literally spawned on top of the area, there's no way in hell the meteor is hitting its target
 
The characters on your list are either hax lords, fodder or in the middle. But goodness sake I'm having a dang hard time in finding suitable characters to pit against them.
 
Greatsage13th said:
The characters on your list are either hax lords, fodder or in the middle. But goodness sake I'm having a dang hard time in finding suitable characters to pit against them.
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I mean they ARE interesting characters to match, Sebas with his fear hax of doom, U5 with their various careers that decide how they fight almost entirely, Cocytus with his weapons and frost aura, and the Warriors cats with the fact they're in a position in 9-C to where they're very hard to match
 
DaReaperMan said:
I mean they ARE interesting characters to match, Sebas with his fear hax of doom, U5 with their various careers that decide how they fight almost entirely, Cocytus with his weapons and frost aura, and the Warriors cats with the fact they're in a position in 9-C to where they're very hard to match
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Sebas would've been matched against a certain character in the past if the entire cast wasn't downgraded frorm 7A
 
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