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Kirby vs Joker

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Basically a character's powers and abilities, Kirby's mind manipulation is Kirby's hax, saying "Hax" is shorter than "abilities/powers"

"Lucemom is so haxxed"="Lucemon is so OP/has so many broken powers"
 
Well, hax is more like the abilities that can easily just end a fight rather than a shitton of punching and laser cannons.

Generic examples: killing a person just by making contact, controling your opponents mind to make them your slave (or killing themselves), litterally destroying the soul of the opponent, writing the opponent out of existance, throwing them into an alternate universe with no way to escape, straight up administering a fast acting poison.
 
Yaldy's reality warping is based on his mindhax due to the mechanics of the Metaverse, so at the very least, Joker's resistance to mind manip should be multi-solar system level.

That said, Kirby doesn't have mind manip listed on his page so we're going to need scans for the multi-galactic mindhax claim.
 
Friends Heart is a projectile btw, Joker can dodge or reflect it (although, not sure on what it would fall as, so not 100% if Joker can reflect)

Not voting for now.
 
The page also has it listed as being able to affect others without making direct contact. Although, the linked feat comes off more as the Friend Heart having a bit of an AOE, so Joker could feasibly dodge them. Joker also has Makarakarn, which would just bounce the Friend Heart back at Kirby. Joker also has Personas with Insta-Heal, which automatically cure all ailments after only a couple of moments. Although, he'd have to equip said Persona before getting hit.
 
If it has range, it doesn't reach very far.

Also, Kirb has a bit of a AP advantage, but it probably doesn't matter, since it's not big enough for one shot+it likely comes down to hax.
 
Joker might have a slight advantage in that Almighty spells ignore all resistances and artificial defenses.
 
Kirby by himself has the uncanny ability to hit projectiles to send them back at others, and even if he gets hit by his own Friend Hearts that wouldn't do anything given that he's already in the position Friend Hearts puts others at ..and that Star Allies get hit themselves by them when saving others from 2 characters' morality hax.

The Friend Hearts are also spammable, so dodging alone puts Joker on a disadvantageous defensive.

On all this "Joker has", is this stuff he passively has or uses IC? Nobody is specifying.
 
He is a player character. His IC is literally whatever the player wants at any given time/how you build your personas.
 
Then Kirby via Friend Hearts, inhale, AP, dura and Low-Godly to aim a second try if needed.
 
Joker has skills that greatly boost his evasion against magical attacks, but it really doesn't help enough to take the advantage. Kirby FRA.
 
Solacis said:
Joker has skills that greatly boost his evasion against magical attacks, but it really doesn't help enough to take the advantage. Kirby FRA.
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Just to clarify, Friend Hearts aren't magic.
 
I just confirmed a suspicion that I had, the Omnipotent Orb as well as many things Joker "has" should only go under Optional Equipment. Someone should fix that later.
 
It is under optional equipment. He should only have his gun and knife, maybe grappling hook as of SSBU.
 
The optional equipment-thing is relatively new and as a result many, many profiles have our old everything-a-character-ever-had-is-its-Standard Equipment formula, which is misleading and encourages more or that. Saying the same as before; Somebody should make the effort to check that and make a CRT one day. I'm not an expert of the verse.
 
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