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Kirby V.S. Goku
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WrongShadowWarrior1999 said:
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Saikou said this was correct...ShadowWarrior1999 said:
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How? If you regenerate from being destroyed by a higher-D attack then that's Mid-Godly if the dimensional plane still exists, High-Godly if the dimensional plane is destroyed.
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Destroying a 4-D spacetime would destroy a 3-D soul
Destroying a 5-D spacetime would destroy a 4-D concept
Etc
Destroying a 5-D spacetime would destroy a 4-D concept
Etc
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No...? It's Mid-Godly only if Goku destroys the soul, which afaik he can't.ShadowWarrior1999 said:
It's High Godly only if Goku destroys the whole dimensional plane, which he can't do as he lacks the range.
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That would be true if Goku could actually do that, but he lacks the range.ZacharyGrossman273 said:
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Getting hit by an attack above your dimensional level is more than just "getting punched really really hard."
I've brought up Goku's lack of range to bust a space-time continuum plenty of times before actually.
I've brought up Goku's lack of range to bust a space-time continuum plenty of times before actually.
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It's your body getting destroyed by infinite force basically, which doesn't destroy the soul.ShadowWarrior1999 said:
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The soul would get destroyed too as it is a lower-dimensional one compared to the attack.
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Oh, fair point.ShadowWarrior1999 said:
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No one ever said that Goku has soul manipulation, how do you even come up to that conclusion?
Any higher-dimensional attack will bypass Low-Godly of a lower-dimensional being.
Any higher-dimensional attack will bypass Low-Godly of a lower-dimensional being.
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What are you even talking about?
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Ok if we're talking about a 3D being bound to a 4D construct, destroying that construct (provided they don't survive the bust itself) does bypass up to Mid-Godly. They have no remaining body, soul, history, etc...and no universe to regen into.
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That's how it is but we were talking about a 4D attack just destroying the character but not the construct.
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Then no, that doesn't bypass any kind of godly regen, might not even bypass high regen in this context depending on what you think ki blasts can do in DB.
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Basically the thinking was Low 2-C Goku can kill 3D characters with Low-Godly (as 4D power transcends 3D concepts) but not another Low 2-C with Low-Godly.
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That makes absolutely no sense
Dimensional power doesn't kill non-corporeality just by being infinitely stronger then randomly stop for zero reason.
Dimensional power doesn't kill non-corporeality just by being infinitely stronger then randomly stop for zero reason.
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4D isn't just infinitely stronger than 3D (otherwise that would just be High 3-A), it is completely transcendent. No matter how many infinites you stack on 3D, it will never become 4D.
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Not true. You stack two infinites. One to get to High 3-A, another to get to Low 2-C.
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Well, an uncountable infinity for Low 2-C
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Being infinitely above another High 3-A is still High 3-A.
Just like how infinitely above baseline 2-As aren't High 2-A.
Just like how infinitely above baseline 2-As aren't High 2-A.
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4-D or Low 2-C is 1 degree of uncountable infinity greater than 3-D; High 3-A is countable infinity times greater than 3-A. And even then, that's just in terms of raw power, not speed or hax. But keep in mind that we don't always take "Infinitely greater" statements literally.
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No matter how many countably infinite sets you stack on, it will never reach uncountable infinity.
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yeah ik it was a jokeThe Wright Way said:Mickey1940 said:
You do know that a 5-A hurting a 4-A is an outlier right? Low-Godly is Low-Godly, Goku can't bypass it.
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Question: is there any chance Goku would realize he can't kill GK, Instant Transmission to Kame's House to get the Mafuba Container and the seal, IT back, and then seal Kirby? Or is that a non-possibility?
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DBS Goku's mafuba is considered combat-applicable so ye, he can seal Kirby.OuterversalSaibaman said:
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That's very unlikely that it's gonna happen considering he rarely uses mafuba in character. And the fact that he needs prep time to even do the mafuba is even more of a setback for him
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I mean, considering this is the Goku AFTER Zamasu, I think he would. After all, He now knows that's a reasonable option towards opponents seemingly immortal for his standards. Once he realizes a kamehameha,etc. won't work, I doubt he'll try a Spirit Bomb due to sensing pure energy from Kirby. So, I'd imagine his only go to would be Mafuba. The only prep time it requires would be taking the top off, putting the seal on it, and placing it on the ground if I remember correctly, Considering he forgot the seal before, that'd probably be his first go-to(maybe even at Kame's House since I doubt it's take even 2 seconds). Then. he'd IT back, take the top off while dodging, place it or throw on the ground, opening facing up since he should have good precision and accuracy for being an expert martial artist that can move FTL, and seal Kirby.At least, that's how I imagine it.
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Don't think he can do that before getting haxed to death. Especially sense his first instinct would be CQC.
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You're right. This is U.I Goku. Then again, what does Kirby have that's gonna kill a Goku that's hellbent on dodging everything? Genuine question btw.
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He inhales and spits him out as a harmless star bullet. Falling that, he possesses Goku with his disembodied consciousness after getting hit once.OuterversalSaibaman said:
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sooooooo why is this thread still open? Everyone here already agrees how big of a stomp/mismatch this entire fight is.
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Goku via sealing
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Sealing was already debunked.
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