The conclusion is nonsensical and made up by you, the fact that it's used to time travel just means it had weird properties on its time, same with space, you can't say from that that it has to be because it's all bigger than whole timelines as that is neither the only conclusion to make from that nor the most likely. Another Dimension is used for time travel because it can do that, that's it, more than it is made up. Anything can be used for time travel and dimensional travel w/o needing to be 4-D, it just needs to have those powers.
So what you're saying is that AD is using hax to teleport its targets through time and space? And that it can somehow bestow that power upon its users to allow them to travel to specific locations in space-time or casually drift through it? By refusing to make any kind of educated guess other than "time is weird there but it's still a 3D space", this is essentially the assumption you're making. Given how it's used and its place in the cosmology, there's no way AD doesn't extend throughout time in one way or another. The most logical assumption to make with the information we have is that the roads of Another Dimension extend throughout space and time. They're roads. Not a magical sentient mcguffin that grant the power of time travel.
Another Dimension is outside the main universe, so of course it's beyond it.
The space between universes is unquantifiable and can be whatever, that AD has universes doesn't mean it has to be all the space around other universes that aren't part of AD. You're making up rules based on made up presumptions.
And you're changing the rules after noticing the contradiction in your own words. You made a big deal about how Another Dimension doesn't necessarily fill up all the space between universes, but rather some of it, but now that you remember that it does in fact have universes within itself, you act as if making up all of the space around every universe in the cosmology is more important, without bringing up why that would be necessary. What's stopping AD from having a 4D space without containing
every timeline in existence inside of it?
I don't have to "at least agree" with that, as it's more made up stuff; we don't know what those fading pictures were because nothing is stated about them, they could have been 3-D or even 4-D with what we saw being limited to game mechanics & design inaccuracy,
Do you no longer agree your own assessment or do you simply think it's just as likely as the possibilities outlined below?
they could have been portals,
I already debunked the portal theory earlier in the thread.
they could have been images with clairvoyance on the universes inside AD (like the Speed Force showing images),
Occam's razor says otherwise and the speed force is a bad example because not only is it of a higher dimensionality than the timelines it has claivoyance over, but I'm pretty sure those universe images serve a purpose to the lore and to speed force users. Unlike the ones in AD which are just there.
or they could have been universes while their inside is bigger than how it looks on the outside. We don't know.
Of course the universe is bigger on the inside than how it looks on the outside. We know that the Lor Starcutter isn't bigger than the universe. It's just moving in a higher-D space which dwarfs them.
Any present moment in a universe inside AD is just as 3-D as in a normal universe, rather than 4-D. Otherwise AD is still a small multiverse.
I agree with that. I always did. It's the space that contains those universes which is 4D. I obviously also agree that AD is a small multiverse, but guess what? A small multiverse is inherently 4D in size. All that I'm arguing is that the space which contains that multiverse should also be 4D. To refute that by saying
"Any present moment in a universe inside AD is just as 3-D as in a normal universe", you're implying that AD's space between dimensions has a present moment to begin with, when we both know for sure that it doesn't have linear time like any universe would. Otherwise it couldn't freely be used for time travel and there would be no point in saying it's "beyond space and time" (let alone "beyond time and dimensions") in any meaning of the word "beyond". It's either timeless of superior to time. Regardless of how we translate kanjis, the latter is more likely because the former requires more ludicrous assumptions. If my translation of Koeru is correct, it's undeniably superior, at least enough to be 4D. If my definition of Jigen is correct, it's qualitatively superior, making it 5D.
This is what i would prefer for a conclusion here as well if no direct discussion with peptos translator will happen.
Alright. Let's do that.
Well, if you list all of the scans and/or text segments that you need translated, I can send a request notification to them.
The legitimacy of
these claims by an actual Japanese speaker regarding the term Koeru (越える vs 超える) and Jigen (次元)
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Backed up by
these sources.
