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King vs Kidd: Redo

Eminiteable said:
That was Law.
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It was a joint effort as far as we know (hopefully the anime will clarify who broke which of BM's bones), but considering Flame-On King in Base was unharmed by his own explosions (which would have one-shot Zoro who tanked hits from the Yonko), and Zoan Flame-On King was completely unharmed by the same Enma attack that sliced through Zoan Kaido's scales, I think King could take at least one of those attacks and be fine as long as it doesn't crush his organs.

Also, his speed amps will make him far too fast for Kidd to hit with a massive bull.

Also grace has already concluded.
 
Kachon123 said:
After Kroom her hand was straight, and she tried to block Corna Dio with it. After that is when it broke.
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Just garbo art, Big Mom credits all of it to Law:
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TheMonkeMan said:
She doesn't say who broke her bones, she just gives Law credit for the shockwaves ( they presumably clapped her organs a bit ).
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Kachon123 said:
She credits the broken ribs to Law.
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It's really simple to understand, Law's shockwave went through her arm -> Fodder comment on her broken arm -> she comments on the shockwave -> says she broke some ribs too (Alongside the broken arm) -> says she needs to watch out for Law's moves -> heals her broken bones.

Nowhere in that conversation is Kid given credit for anything, it's all law
 
Regardless, she was still scared of getting hit by the bull again, with one of her homies even telling her to dodge it (and her Homies are even cockier than she is).

And it still knocked the daylights out of her the first time.
 
That_moron said:
But yeah Kidd's got this.
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1. What Kachon said.

2. Grace already concluded, and this has been added to both profiles.

3. This battle is what happens when a reckless one-trick pony faces a level-headed warrior with plenty of broken moves and abilities.
 
Speed scaling chain:

Kidd = Big Mom = Zoan Marco/Base Zoro's movement speed = Base King (who matched both in speed) < Zoan/Hybrid King << Flame-Off King = King and Zoro's reactions < Imperial Deep Pride Stake.

Also, we can compare Kidd's base AP to King's durability via Zoro's Shishi Sonson, which despite being dura neg still loses effectiveness the more durable an enemy is.

Pre-Mink Medicine Zoro's Shishi Sonson badly hurt Apoo, who more or less ate a Punk Gibson from a Pissed off Kidd despite Kidd surprising him.

Post Mink Medicine Zoro, who is stronger than his previous key, was unable to even scratch Base Flame-On King with a Shishi Sonson.
 
She doesn't say Kid broke her wrist, she specifically says LAW IS DANGEROUS and ignores Kid altogether.
Stop giving him feats he has no proof of doing.
 
SnookB said:
She doesn't say Kid broke her wrist, she specifically says LAW IS DANGEROUS and ignores Kid altogether.
Stop giving him feats he has no proof of doing.
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"Feels like I broke some ribs, too!"
She doesn't mention the wrist there nor mention who broke the ribs, so it can be safe to assume Kidd had busted up her bones.
Like seriously, if Kidd did nothing why the **** was he even in the fight?
Ask your selves that.
 
TheMonkeMan said:
"Feels like I broke some ribs, too!"
She doesn't mention the wrist there nor mention who broke the ribs, so it can be safe to assume Kidd had busted up her bones.
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She's talking about her broken wrist, she doesn't need to mention the broken wrist as Oda already wrote fodder bringing attention to it alongside having Big Mom's dialogue end with her dealing with the wrist injury.

The wrist injury was Law as not only did we see kroom strike that same wrist but also Big Mom herself gave credit to Law and noted his internal attacks to be dangerous.

Not claiming Kid didn't do anything but giving credit to Kid for that wrist is wrong.
 
Eminiteable said:
She's talking about her broken wrist, she doesn't need to mention the broken wrist as Oda already wrote fodder bringing attention to it alongside having Big Mom's dialogue end with her dealing with the wrist injury.

The wrist injury was Law as not only did we see kroom strike that same wrist but also Big Mom herself gave credit to Law and noted his internal attacks to be dangerous.

Not claiming Kid didn't do anything but giving credit to Kid for that wrist is wrong.
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As Kachon showed earlier her wrist was fine until Kidd rammed it.
Most you can say is that Law loosened it for him.
 
I'm gonna wait for the anime to clarify who broke what, but right now Monkeman and Kachon seem to be making the stronger case.

Law's Shockwaves seemed to hit heavily around the rib area, and while he did pierce BM's right arm, piercing =/= breaking, and it was straight before Kidd used Punk Corna Dio.
 
Eseseso said:
Law's Shockwaves seemed to hit heavily around the rib area, and while he did pierce BM's right arm, piercing =/= breaking, and it was straight before Kidd used Punk Corna Dio.
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Idk what version you read where Law's shockwave hit her rib areas, his sword struck her arm and head.

The shockwaves are produced from his sword, which said sword struck directly on the wrist that was broken meaning that's where the shockwave was produced alongside her head.

You want to know who actually did strike her rib area? Kid when he charged into her, Law's were produced in her wrist and head.
 
Kid hit her midsection. Her arm was completely to the side.
Law's shockwave hit the wrist that was broken. I'm not saying Kid didn't do anything, I'm saying her injury directly correlates to a spot that Law hit. If ya'll said Kid broke her ribs (considered her slammed into her chest) It'd be more believable.
 
SnookB said:
Kid hit her midsection. Her arm was completely to the side.
Law's shockwave hit the wrist that was broken. I'm not saying Kid didn't do anything, I'm saying her injury directly correlates to a spot that Law hit. If ya'll said Kid broke her ribs (considered her slammed into her chest) It'd be more believable.
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Credit to Kachon ( because somehow people didn't see him post this above and completely ignored it )
 
ngl the arguments for kid are exactly part of why I don't like him lmao.
Law>pierces her wrist>big ass shockwave inside said wrist>wrist gets broken
"no Kid broke it"
 
TheMonkeMan said:
Her wrist was literally fine before it like look at the image for once.
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That image doesn't prove shit. Her body is SHOOTING BACK from the bull, even if it was broken her arm would swing the opposite direction because of momentum
If we saw her arm fine while she was STILL, then that's proof yes. But we don't
 
SnookB said:
That image doesn't prove shit. Her body is SHOOTING BACK from the bull, even if it was broken her arm would swing the opposite direction because of momentum
If we saw her arm fine while she was STILL, then that's proof yes. But we don't
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That's MAJOR bull shit yo.
LAW USES SHOCK WILLE
Arm is STILL INTACT
TheMonkeMan said:
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Credit to Kachon ( because somehow people didn't see him post this above and completely ignored it )
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^ this happens
Big Mom's arm afterwards: ...
Y'all are lying so hard and it's not even funny anymore.
Kidd broke her wrist. End of discussion.
 
SnookB said:
the arm being intact in the exact same panel isn't proof?? If that's what caused her injury we wouldn't immediately see it anyway, a panel isn't gonna show her arm broken WHILE the attack is happening
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Even after it, we see her using her right arm to block Kidd's bull.
Wonder why it was broken and hanging after she blocked the bull.. Hmm..
 
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