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no it doesn't
someone can flip a coin on the other side of the planet and i can guess heads or tails despite not being able to use any of my senses to figure out which it is, for example
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King of Hell vs The Blue Lightning of Vollachia (Roronoa Zoro vs Cecilus Segmund)
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someone can flip a coin on the other side of the planet and i can guess heads or tails despite not being able to use any of my senses to figure out which it is, for example
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And how would you know when they've flipped it..? How would you even know it's happening to begin with?
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Cecilus will also know what you are going to do via reading your prescence and more
King of Hell vs The Blue Lightning of Vollachia (Roronoa Zoro vs Cecilus Segmund)
Battle between two of the strongest swordsmen in their respective series. Both have ambition to achieve the title of strongest swordsman. Cecilus Segmunt vs Roronoa Zoro Speed is equal. Battle has no prep Cecilus has both the Dream and Fiend swords. Zoro has Enma of course. Battle takes place...vsbattles.com
And? Zoro's observation haki beats all of those senses feats and more
danger sense, presence sense, emotion/intent sensing and precog... How are any of those feats even comparable? Zoro knows what you're going to do next with just reading your presence... Its not analytical prediction
Btw has he even shown such feats or are we just assuming that he upscales from characters like katakuri and luffy for no reason?
Same with cecilus, he can
Cecilus's godly intuition (yes i am gonna start calling it that)
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Your gut feeling.
I am telling you this rz godly intuition shit is absolute bs
Reinhard can give any test and get a 100% based on intuition alone, even if the test is non mcq
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you're focusing on the wrong part of what i said
my point is that even when completely unable to sense something, you can still make guesses on what'll happen.
you do not require senses to make a guess.
obviously it's probably gonna be WRONG if you have no information about it, but clearly Ceci is just Like That and his intuition lets him be right 99.9999999% of the time, apparently.
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100% actually.
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he does not have precog...
Luffy had the same observation haki abilities as zoro does...
No he can't... He would then have precog or could think ahead infinite ways to where he'll 100% know when and where you'll attack
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I would need a better reason for why Zoro has the same observation haki as Luffy
Funny you mention that, he does exactly so in his named chapter
Also like, godly intuition gg
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you realize Analytical Prediction is basically just precog without actually seeing into the future, yes? obviously their skill with AnaPre depends on feats and such but Ceci has AnaPre on his profile.
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When you unlock observation haki you get these abilities.
It's not some sort of skill feat or anything, it's just how observation haki ability works
I don't need to give a reasoning anyway as it's on the profiles already
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proof.Funny you mention that, he does exactly so in his named chapter
Nah... As the actual battle won't come down to skills but Zoro having far superior abilities he can use (unless the thread gets insanely derailed)
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Ok?... I didn't say he didn't have ana prediction on his profile... I'm saying he doesn't have precog which Satella said he did by sensing their presence
Well it still doesn't fully work that way, as you still need some information to use and guess even if its from the past of your senses or via instinct of your body
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Whats the proof of Zoro having advanced?
It shouldn't be if its without a proper reason
Thats what anal precog is
Well he doesn't
He also didnt need any clue to know that killing the zombies is a bad idea. That cannot even be determined by any sensory metric
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In that scan luffy did not have advanced, he had intermediate battling against advanced
Well the proper reasons exist in their profiles with the explanation of how the ability worksIt shouldn't be if its without a proper reason
It does not give you insight of the future, it gives predictions to around where one will move to based on information and process of eliminationThats what anal precog is
You still would need to use senses for you to use your instincts... Which are based on a feeling thats something is wrong or right...Well he doesn't
He also didnt need any clue to know that killing the zombies is a bad idea. That cannot even be determined by any sensory metric
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Different formula, same solution.a subtype of precog
but behave completely differently.
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Different formula, different meals.
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I only see the divination type on advanced kenbushoku
I know how the ability works, which is why i am skeptical of zoro having the advanced version
You are missing the entire point then.
No, you dont need to sense anything. You are saying smth is absolute...in fiction.
Humans cannot run on dust like Cecilus either
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Minor glimpses isnt precog enough to beat Cecilus smh
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its not minor glimpses... They can't hear the future or see the full surrounding of the future which is why it's a glimpses and not the full future of everythingMinor glimpses isnt precog enough to beat Cecilus smh
They still know your every move and know how, when and where you'll attack
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Thats just exactly what mid tier to low high tier characters in ReZero do
They cannot reach Cecilus's level of precog even with an eternity of training
Dam zoro is way below Cecilus than i originally thought
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Yee that's complete wank if you think so...Thats just exactly what mid tier to low high tier characters in ReZero do
They cannot reach Cecilus's level of precog even with an eternity of training
Dam zoro is way below Cecilus than i originally thought
We havent even started talking about the fiend and dream sword or his perception manipulation.
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Who exactly can do that Satella?
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won't matter against blitzes of your movement speed or against huge aoe attacks
Slow things down for your perception won't matter if you not fast enough to do anything, just give you more time to think (especially when beginner observation haki boosts ones perception so much that a child could react to Relativistic+ movement)
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Didnt I already mention that Julius blocked a perception blitzing attack via instinctive reaction?
Haki is an overall amp, you could argue the same for the flow method which can bring average humans upto FTL combat speeds
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predict
- say or estimate that (a specified thing) will happen in the future or will be a consequence of something.
Zoro in base (without observation haki) can do similar things
Zoro did the same pre timeskip seen above
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That's, you know, not Future sight.
There's a clear difference between the two.
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Haki is not an overall amp at all... Arm haki amps only dura, striking and ap. Obs Haki amps senses and reaction speeds that's all they amp
And by you saying could be argued to that flow method thing means that it's probably unlikely it works like that
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well, so that this thread doesn't just forever derail into specific abilities...
I'll vote Zoro for the many one shot techniques and unavoidable techniques/abilities zoro has that can be spammed, which cecilus has nothing to counter or protect against
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What does he have that's unavoidable?
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Iai techniques which fully blitzes your movement speed
and aoe tornadoes full of ranged slashes which can engulfed kaido someone whos bigger than a kilometer
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Easily predicted and intercepted an Earth Snake's attack[9]), Information Analysis (Perfectly judged the speed and trajectory of Carol's attack[10]
Btw precog is precog, regardless of how its done. The end result is the same
Your arguement of divination based precog being superior is blatantly false
Dodging every single rain drop in a rain storm is a Superior feat, what you are saying is simply wrongIai techniques which fully blitzes your movement speed
and aoe tornadoes full of ranged slashes which can engulfed kaido someone whos bigger than a kilometer
Cecilus dodges extrenely easily
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It works exactly like that
When did i say it doesn't???
Stop putting words into my mouth
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all which pre timeskip zoro has already done..
The end result is not the same at all, you not being able to see that isn't my problem, and obs Haki being superior comes also from the fact that re zero's analytical prediction which op characters can already do are inferior to observation haki...
No, not when speed is equalized... That is complete NLF and wankDodging every single rain drop in a rain storm is a Superior feat, what you are saying is simply wrong
Cecilus dodges extrenely easily
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