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Keysword Mini Updates

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Ss3micah said:
They're are two types of darkness you need to consider

Darkness Darkness which is just being able create, shape and manipulate darkness and shadow
And Unholy Darkness which is being able to use dark powers to control and generate energies, elements, objects and entities that have been deemed hellish, demonic or unholy, forces that are connected with demons, evil spirits and anti-gods

Dark Factor
Is MORE than just darkness and shadow
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Yeah, looks dark, called darkness, creates black holes
but somehow it's unholy? It's not even stated in the series to be unholy
 
Vietthai96 said:
again, Dark Factor is not Darkness, it is just a type of energy that look dark, do you guys even understand what is darkness is or just see a bunch of word: darkness and claim them as darkness manipulation????
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Ah yes, because we don't see anything unholy about it, it doesn't even have some sort of curses, nor it is deemed unholy
 
Ss3micah said:
They're are two types of darkness you need to consider

Darkness Darkness which is just being able create, shape and manipulate darkness and shadow
And Unholy Darkness which is being able to use dark powers to control and generate energies, elements, objects and entities that have been deemed hellish, demonic or unholy, forces that are connected with demons, evil spirits and anti-gods

Dark Factor
Is MORE than just darkness and shadow
It's its own demonic force/nature of power
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The context as to how darkness is used
Leans far more to the unholy application
 
Orange said:
Ah yes, because we don't see anything unholy about it, it doesn't even have some sort of curses, nor it is deemed unholy
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Tbh across verses, multiple powers have never been clearly stated. Hell Giorno RtZ has never been stated in Jojo to be causality manipulation.
It's all up to context and interpretation that we decide how abilities work
 
Orange said:
Ah yes, because we don't see anything unholy about it, it doesn't even have some sort of curses, nor it is deemed unholy
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It's a force/source of demonic energy that contains Mechi's consciousness/will and can be used to grant fu tons of new abilities and upgrades
Simple Darkness could only grant him darkness manipulation upon absorbing the dark factor and nothing else
 
Here's a better way of putting it

Darkness manipulation, would be able to create a normal black hole all with all the functions, physics and properties of a standard black hole
Unholy Manipulation, would be able to create a black hole that doesn't give a poop about the laws of nature and physics and could start doing some crazy poop that black holes aren't suppose to be doing
 
Dagoth_OwO said:
Pretty much yeah. The TP and Demon God's did function normally in the black hole that's a part of his body, but the resistances would obviously only scale to the Keysword, and not the people who got sucked in the black hole
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Okay. That seems fine then.
Dagoth_OwO said:
As for Fu, Demigra restrained both him and Mechikabura with his Light Chains so he'd definitely have Immeasurable lifting strength.
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Well, that would not necessarily scale to his physical lifting strength, just something similar to telekinesis.
 
Ss3micah said:
They're are two types of darkness you need to consider

Darkness Darkness which is just being able create, shape and manipulate darkness and shadow
And Unholy Darkness which is being able to use dark powers to control and generate energies, elements, objects and entities that have been deemed hellish, demonic or unholy, forces that are connected with demons, evil spirits and anti-gods

Dark Factor
Is MORE than just darkness and shadow
It's its own demonic force/nature of power
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I am inclined to agree with this.
 
Antvasima said:
Well, that would not necessarily scale to his physical lifting strength, just something similar to telekinesis.
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I'm not so sure about that tbh. They are physical chains that Demigra creates with the Power of Light (Albeit from his staff) which he can pull so I don't see how it would be TK. Although in the end his chains would obviously have Immeasurable lifting strength one way or another
 
Dagoth_OwO said:
I'm not so sure about that tbh. They are physical chains that Demigra creates with the Power of Light (Albeit from his staff) which he can pull so I don't see how it would be TK. Although in the end his chains would obviously have Immeasurable lifting strength one way or another
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nah Demigra doesn't throw Fu or Mechi around to have Immeasurable LS, his Chain is because it restrain them, unless he physically drag those chain though, but again the manga panel is kinda vague, it just focus on the chain though.
Also did you add scan for immeasurable chain manip???
 
Vietthai96 said:
nah Demigra doesn't throw Fu or Mechi around to have Immeasurable LS, his Chain is because it restrain them, unless he physically drag those chain though, but again the manga panel is kinda vague, it just focus on the chain though.
Also did you add scan for immeasurable chain manip???
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Yeah, I added scans for his chains.
 
Vietthai96 said:
nah Demigra doesn't throw Fu or Mechi around to have Immeasurable LS, his Chain is because it restrain them, unless he physically drag those chain though, but again the manga panel is kinda vague, it just focus on the chain though.
Also did you add scan for immeasurable chain manip???
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Demigra did pull mechi i think
 
Yes, that is probably fine to scale to him then.
 
Antvasima said:
Yes, that is probably fine to scale to him then.
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yeah, Only Demigra though, as he have this after wishing for "a power that could defeat Mechikabura", no one scale to him after this cause they focus the fight on mechi and depart afterward so.....
 
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Okay. I think that you mean "defeat Mechikabura" though.
 
Antvasima said:
Yes. That is probably fine.
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Ant, the edit was done, sorry for the big amount of time, i use this oppotunity to consult with Domino and did a big overhaul to Demigra profile as there some wrong information like AP rating, etc....but well if you think that is vandalism you can revert it back
 
Vietthai96 said:
Ant, the edit was done, sorry for the big amount of time, i use this oppotunity to consult with Domino and did a big overhaul to Demigra profile as there some wrong information like AP rating, etc....but well if you think that is vandalism you can revert it back
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Why was Wizard Demigra's Toki Toki absorbtion feat removed?
 
The Demigra profile page changes contained some really bad grammar that I tried to correct earlier. You all need to make a great effort to make sure that it is correct in the future.
 
Antvasima said:
The Demigra profile page changes contained some really bad grammar that I tried to correct earlier. You all need to make a great effort to make sure that it is correct in the future.
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Okay and thanks for all help Ant
As Viet said, that should be everything so you can now close the pages and the thread

Thank You
 
Okay. No problem, but everybody here should really always take care with maintaining proper grammar.
 
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