Kawaki vs Shoto Todoroki

[Nierre]

Kawaki VS Shoto Todoroki​

• Fight Location: Forest of Death
• Starting Distance: 20m
• Equalized speed
• In character but willing to kill
• Current Todoroki vs Current Kawaki
• Karma is allowed
• Flashfire Fist and Flashfreeze are restricted

Kawaki: (@NameIsForKing, @Kachon123, @ZoroNotZolo, @Wrath_Of_Itachi, @Slacjow, @Armerish, @theultimate5105)

Shoto: (@Sonicflare9, @TauanVictor)

Inconclusive:

 

[Kachon123]

Following.

 

[ZoroNotZolo]

Following.

 

[TauanVictor]

Voting Todoroki via Flashfreeze Heatwave.

 

[theultimate5105]

Voting Todoroki via Flashfreeze Heatwave.

Pretty sure Kawaki can just absorb that

 

[TauanVictor]

Pretty sure Kawaki can just absorb that

It can only absorb ninjutsu.

Also, Kawaki will be affected by heat + extreme cold + thermal shock.

 

[theultimate5105]

It can only absorb ninjutsu.

Also, Kawaki will be affected by heat + extreme cold + thermal shock.

Equalized energies would cover that
Also he wouldn't since it would be absorbed
also this

• Flashfire Fist and Flashfreeze are restricted

 

[TauanVictor]

Equalized energies would cover that

It will still be affected by extreme heat and cold, in addition to thermal shock, as it cannot absorb the ambient temperature.

• Flashfire Fist and Flashfreeze are restricted

Flashfreeze Heatwave specifically has not been restricted.

 

[Kachon123]

Voting todoroki via spam Icebergs, heat, freezing, overwhelming, freezing the area, making Kawaki colder slowly wearing him out.

 

[Nierre]

Flashfreeze Heatwave was put at "Unknown" so I decided to keep it. If it actually goes beyond Town level tier, then I'll restrict that too.

 

[TauanVictor]

If it actually goes beyond Town level tier, then I'll restrict that too.

It's not.

 

[Nierre]

Alright I'll count both Tauan's and Kachon's votes

 

[theultimate5105]

It will still be affected by extreme heat and cold, in addition to thermal shock, as it cannot absorb the ambient temperature.

and said Ambient Tempature would be fodder to the actual attack

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

2m Apart

8-B Durability VS At Least 7-C AP and SS

 

[Nierre]

2m Apart

8-B Durability VS At Least 7-C AP and SS

LOL my bad I meant 20m

 

[Nierre]

That should give enough room for Todoroki, but if that's too much of an advantage for him then I can bump it down to 10

 

[ZoroNotZolo]

Todoroki FRA.

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Also, Kawaki will be affected by heat + extreme cold + thermal shock.

What Extreme cold exactly? And is dodging not something people do?

Flashfreeze Heatwave: Shoto cools the air around him with his ice powers, then switches to his fire and quickly heats and expands the air around him. This allows him to release an overheated blast.

 

[Sonicflare9]

todoroki fra

 

[Nierre]

Counted

 

[theultimate5105]

Kawaki just nukes if he is 20 meters away
I don't see how Flashfreeze heatwave will one shot someone with a large AP advantage

 

[Kachon123]

Kawaki just nukes if he is 20 meters away
I don't see how Flashfreeze heatwave will one shot someone with a large AP advantage

Kawaki scales to around 14 kilotons while Shoto scales way above 10 kilotons.

 

[NameIsForKing]

How durable is Shoto

 

[Kachon123]

How durable is Shoto

8-B lol.

 

[NameIsForKing]

I vote kawaki due to him being able to absorb everything shoto throws at him and easily killing him

 

[theultimate5105]

Kawaki scales to around 14 kilotons while Shoto scales way above 10 kilotons.

Kawaki Is higher then 14 he is above 19 kilotons

 

[Nierre]

Also remember that the location is in a forest, so Todoroki will probably avoid using huge bursts of fire because of all the trees around it'd give him a disadvantage (blurred vision, breathing in smoke and ash (which is bad for you btw), etc etc)

 

[Nierre]

Voting Todoroki via Flashfreeze Heatwave.

Sorry I had forgotten the location that I chose, but in a forest Todoroki would not go for this move seeing how it's in an enclosed space and there're trees surrounding them.

 

[Artorimachi_Meteoraft]

I’m gonna Stay neutral

 

[Popted2]

for now neutral

 

[Rez]

Equalized energies would cover that

Quirks are result of natural mutation and evolution so don't think they can be equalised with Chakra

 

[Berhann]

Following

 

[Nierre]

Bump

 

[Nierre]

Bump

 

[NameIsForKing]

Quirks are result of natural mutation and evolution so don't think they can be equalised with Chakra

so can kawaki absorb or not

 

[Nierre]

With verse equalization, it should be able to be absorbed, the origin doesn't matter.

 

[Slacjow]

Verse equalization should cover it.
Shoto creates his attacks, Karma can't absorb what has already been in the real world.

Shot can't win against someone who can literally null everything he does.
Shoto's durability and physical strength are way below Kawaki's so in close combat he dies pretty much instantly.

 

[Nierre]

Well I was thinking that Shoto could easily spam his abilities or even turn the floor into ice to use as his advantage (though the ice floor could be countered with Kawaki transforming parts of his hands into shoes with traction or ice skates, similarly like he did against Garo).

Also seeing how he has more stamina than Kawaki, it's very possible Shoto could just play the waiting game until Kawaki is too tired. There's also the heat that could tire Kawaki possibly, but Shoto would also have to be careful about the trees around and not to start a fire.

But then Kawaki also has a territorial advantage too. Shoto would have to be careful not to use maximum output on his flames to avoid causing a fire that could hinder him. Kawaki also has shadow clone jutsu to trick Shoto, as well as trees to jump on and run on (though if shoto can just clear the whole forest, turning it to ice, that'd force Kawaki on the ground).

I think it's pretty fair for both parties

 

[Slacjow]

Well I was thinking that Shoto could easily spam his abilities or even turn the floor into ice to use as his advantage (though the ice floor could be countered with Kawaki transforming parts of his hands into shoes with traction or ice skates, similarly like he did against Garo).

Irrelevant, Kawaki will absorb all of it. He can absorb matter as long as it's created, so even solid things like stone and ice can be absorbed.

Also seeing how he has more stamina than Kawaki, it's very possible Shoto could just play the waiting game until Kawaki is too tired.

Kawaki in the EP189 had enough stamina for one fight with Garou only because before head he was fighting a bunch of very strong puppets. His stamina should be on par with Burrito and other kids.

 

[Nierre]

Irrelevant, Kawaki will absorb all of it. He can absorb matter as long as it's created, so even solid things like stone and ice can be absorbed.

Kawaki in the EP189 had enough stamina for one fight with Garou only because before head he was fighting a bunch of very strong puppets. His stamina should be on par with Burrito and other kids.

Fair enough.
Do you think it's a stomp? Or is it that Kawaki wins low-diff?


Also I messaged Kingofwolves since he's a knowledgeable member on MHA. Hopefully he could make a good argument for Todoroki..