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Because there is literally nothing left for Soul King to return the misfortune of, since he already got erased from existence in a frozen time.BakiHanma18 said:I'm confused: why wouldn't Kars just speed blitz and use something like TWOH, then when his good fortune turns to misfortune, literally oneshots himself?
Cause the OP said so... I guess.WinsonDetamp said:Wait what... Composite Kars has all the stands from jojo? How?
Headcanon. Soul King doesn't have resistance to existence erasure in his profile, and one of the ability of Star Platinum Over Heaven is erasing your opponent from existence.BakiHanma18 said:That's the thing: SK can absorb bad luck and fire it back at an opponent, but the opponent's good luck of landing the move is passively turned back on himself, meaning SK would never get erased, Kars would hit SK and Reality Overwrite himself
Evidence that TB can counter EE?BakiHanma18 said:Yes, but it wouldn't happen to him, it would happen to Kars because of The Balance
Where is your evidence that casuality manipulation can counter existence erasure? Jugram in-canon was only shown to counter physical injuries not abstract injuries.BakiHanma18 said:Are you serious???? It's Causality manipulation... Kars would literally use RO on SK and the affect would hit Kars instead of SK because RO erasing Kars is considered good luck
Is that an activated ability or passive?Dienomite22 said:Umm TWOH nulled Causality manipulation so SPOH can aswell
BakiHanma18 said:The means of attack are irrelevant, he literally just passively reverses good luck, whether that good luck be a physical attack, a hax attack, etc
Except Jugram in-canon has never shown the ability to counter or survive anything abstract, therefore giving someone an ability they never shown to display in the first place is considered NLF either by statements or by exarration. We go by context here.BakiHanma18 said:In addition, the nature and specifics of the character's manipulation must be mentioned to provide context and avoid the No Limits Fallacy.
Context: if luck is manipulated in return or if the move is considered bad luck for the user, it will be redirected back at the user with good luck like an amp or healing, depending on the nature of the attack
12. Argument from beliefBakiHanma18 said:14. Appeal to tradition.
This is when someone claims that an argument must be true because it's the way things have always been done previously, or the thing that people always believed before.
8. Red HerringBakiHanma18 said:17. Undistributed middle
This is a fallacy where someone makes an argument of the following form: "All contents of set A are also contents of set B. X is in set B. Therefore X is in set A." The opposite would be true, though
8. Red HerringBakiHanma18 said:17. Undistributed middle
This is a fallacy where someone makes an argument of the following form: "All contents of set A are also contents of set B. X is in set B. Therefore X is in set A." The opposite would be true, though
GottemChoinoi said:Yeah bring up some "fractual" Argument
I'm sorry that you don't understand how The Balance works, but my point stands.BakiHanma18 said:I'm sorry that you don't understand The Balance, but my point stands
I mean Jugram wasn't able to survive Auswallen...Choinoi said:Yeah bring up some "fractual" Argument
Intellectual dishonesty: you failed to mention that the Aushwallen Light isn't EE and that he let it happen to himBakiHanma18 said:I mean Jugram wasn't able to survive Auswallen...
Now the main question is, what will happen if Jugram didn't let Yhwach use Auswallen on him and tried to betray him? Would The Balance then be able to counter Auswallen?BakiHanma18 said:B R U H, he's literally Yhwach's right hand man, and he LITERALLY SAYS in his fight with Bazzard Black that people that are hit by the Light are doing a service to Yhwach and that he's just taking back what belongs to him anyway. Why would his right hand man NOT want him to be as amped as possible for the final engagement??!
"The means of attack are irrelevant, he literally just passively reverses good luck, whether that good luck be a physical attack, a hax attack, etc"BakiHanma18 said:According to what we discussed here, no, because Yhwach Power nulls from the future, literally hard countering The Balance
Because Star Platinum Over Heaven can powernull The Balance from the future similar to Auswallen?BakiHanma18 said:I'm glad you understand now
Since the power null hasn't even happened yet, how could The Balance reverse it???