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Kamen Rider W: Intelligence Revisions

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Intelligence revisions for W may seem pretty small, but I guarantee you its very important. Aside from detective work being a key aspect of the show, our pages for Shotaro, Philip, and the two-in-one Kamen Rider they become together manage to both exaggerate and downplay the intelligence section. Let's take a look:

The Gaia Library
Right now we have the Gaia Library at Night-Omniscient for "gain them the infinite knowledge of the Earth" as the profile puts it. So, let's just clarify how the Gaia Library works. Essentially, it's something Philip can access as to search through all of the recorded information on Earth. That's definitely a lot, but far from omniscient for several reasons:
-Within the context of the Kamen Rider universe, there's a vastness of history and information that has certainly not been archived
-When taking into account the separate universes from the Main Continuity, this further proves Nigh-Omni isn't viable
-Philip cannot see all of the Gaia Library's information at once. He always has to search using keywords to narrow the search down into there's limited, or ideally, a single option for what to read
-Some information in the Gaia Library is locked and can only be unlocked once finding the keyword
-Some information just straight up can't be accessed and will boot Philip out, as shown when he tried to search up information regarding the organization known as Museum. He was only able to access the information once Wakana unlocked it

So not only is this kind of information not entirely being filtered in Philip or Double's mind when in use, but it would certainly not have access to a nigh-omniscient amount of information. So given this information, I suggest this goes on the pages in relation to the Gaia Library:

"Supergenius for the Gaia Library (The Gaia Library contains every piece of recorded information on Earth)"

This rating is for the Gaia Library. Not those who use it.


Shotaro and Philip
It should come as no surprise that these two private detectives should have some intellectual feats worth boasting. But let's get into them specifically to make our profiles represent that more clearly.


Shotaro:
-Deduced the identity of the T-Rex Dopant before Philip confirmed it with the Gaia Library
-Quickly deduced the location of the Cockroach Dopant by recognizing the environment that he drew in his manga
-Concluded that Suzuko Arima was a Dopant that aided the Maruo Arima/Beast Dopant in a car robbery and manipulated their friend Isamu Bito into taking the blame after finding her Gaia Memory kept in Sokichi Narumi's bear statue
-Deduced Yukie to have used the Yesterday Memory in order to drive off her 3 earlier victims in order for them to protect a kindergarden, as well as being able to tell she was holding back as to get revenge instead of join Museum
-Figured out that his client was hiding a Gaia Memory in a bag that was stolen and was forced into going to the Narumi Detective Agency in order to receive it back with some details from earlier in the case and Philip's help

Philip:
-Covered over 142,610 articles about magma in an incredibly short amount of time
-Researched every piece of information about takoyaki in the span of one night
-Casually calculated the speed, velocity and rotation of a roulette ball to figure out what number it will land on in another person's match, later doing this again to consistently score correct in his own match after some off-screen research
-After researching certain skills, Philip can immediately replicate them efficiently to the point where he considers it "child's play", such as when he finally obtained the information he sought on the dance technique known as "Heaven's Tornado", incorporating it effectively in battle against the Cockroach Dopant
-Found out the identity of the Sweets Dopant by noticing her word choice and comparing it to an articles she's written
-Figured out the locations of where the Violence Dopant would attack by identifying his previous attacks and vague hints to Wakana's interview questions, as well as additions information from the latter that Philip asked for based on how he theorized an attack would be executed
-Incredibly observant, being able to identify the Triceratops Dopant was Aya Kujo based on her leg injury, and will often offer insight on an opponent to Shotaro when the two fight as Double
-Tracked the time of where a garbage truck usually arrives near a road bridge while running away from the Smilodon Dopant, timing it perfectly so that he and Akiko could escape


Conclusions
Shotaro is still ranked at Gifted and Philip is now ranked at Extraordinary Genius
The Gaia Library is ranked at Supergenius

Thoughts?
 
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The Gaia Library
Right now we have the Gaia Library at Night-Omniscient for "gain them the infinite knowledge of the Earth" as the profile puts it. So, let's just clarify how the Gaia Library works. Essentially, it's something Philip can access as to search through all of the recorded information on Earth. That's definitely a lot, but far from omniscient for several reasons:
-Within the context of the Kamen Rider universe, there's a vastness of history and information that has certainly not been archived
-When taking into account the separate universes from the Main Continuity, this further proves Nigh-Omni isn't viable
-Philip cannot see all of the Gaia Library's information at once. He always has to search using keywords to narrow the search down into there's limited, or ideally, a single option for what to read
-Some information in the Gaia Library is locked and can only be unlocked once finding the keyword
-Some information just straight up can't be accessed and will boot Philip out, as shown when he tried to search up information regarding the organization known as Museum. He was only able to access the information once Wakana unlocked it

So not only is this kind of information not entirely being filtered in Philip or Double's mind when in use, but it would certainly not have access to a nigh-omniscient amount of information. So given this information, I suggest this goes on the pages in relation to the Gaia Library:

"Extraordinary Genius for the Gaia Library (The Gaia Library contains every piece of recorded information on Earth)"

This rating is for the Gaia Library. Not those who use it.
I agree with this, but the users should still have the int feat imo, just with the weaknesses that were noted here
 
The users don't become as smart as the collective information of the Gaia Library. If that were the case, Philip would never have to search a single keyword
 
i know, im saying that they should keep Extroidinary Genius with the library because the library has that level of info, but in the weakness section it should be noted that he cant access it all at once/some of it is locked (though that only seems to be for the ones abt museum to me since it seems like wakana locked it on purpose from what the gif said)
 
Two things, I think Philip should be Extraordinary Genius while the Gaia Library would be Supergenius. Just looking at some of these feats, it's above what irl geniuses would be able to do. Finding a person's identity just by the way they spoke and then cross referencing it through articles he's read and the calculation speed is way above what people could do.

As for the Gaia Library, it literally knows ALL information of the Earth. Which means information like single celled organisms, ancient human history, modern history, every branch of science, math, literacy. philosophy, etc.
 
So what would be Xtreme's int? When they used Xtreme, it scanned the enemy immediately without all the investigating parts or would that be info analysis.
 
So what would be Xtreme's int? When they used Xtreme, it scanned the enemy immediately without all the investigating parts or would that be info analysis.
That was just Info Analysis
 
Two things, I think Philip should be Extraordinary Genius while the Gaia Library would be Supergenius. Just looking at some of these feats, it's above what irl geniuses would be able to do. Finding a person's identity just by the way they spoke and then cross referencing it through articles he's read and the calculation speed is way above what people could do.

As for the Gaia Library, it literally knows ALL information of the Earth. Which means information like single celled organisms, ancient human history, modern history, every branch of science, math, literacy. philosophy, etc.
Yeah I think that's a good idea and falls more in line with what I'd consider to be worthy of that tier
 
Shotaro could also be a genius. Finding out a Dophant’s location just by flipping through a manga is pretty insane. Yeah he had someone tell him that the mangaka is likely the Dophant, but the house he pinpointed was literally in like 2 panels of an entire manga chapter. Also, finding the identity of a Dophant before Philip could WITH THE GAIA LIBRARY is insane.
 
I agree about Shotaro and Phillip intelligence upgrade but i will have to disagree with Gaia Library argument:

The Gaia Library are literally said to contain infinite knowledge on Earth, including every recorded infomation in the world. By this mean, everything since the beginning to the end of creation would be archived. While Gaia Library knowledge have never extend to separete universes, the vast information from the main universes is still sufficiently big enough to grant Night-Omniscience.

Phillip limitation would be the opposite of anti-feat to Gaia Library intelligence, given that a genius like him weren't able to absorb all the information at once and have to dissect them down to single book. The locked information is probably a burden to Phillip to solve, but it is still there proven that Gaia Library did indeed record it. The fifth one is due to Wakana as you said it, she can access to Gaia Library to placed a restriction on it.
 
The Gaia Library are literally said to contain infinite knowledge on Earth, including every recorded infomation in the world. By this mean, everything since the beginning to the end of creation would be archived. While Gaia Library knowledge have never extend to separete universes, the vast information from the main universes is still sufficiently big enough to grant Night-Omniscience.
The Gaia Library only seems to be locked into Earth, not the world as a whole. It's energy comes from the Earth and Gaia Memories are created from said energy. So it doesn't seem to know knowledge that extends from knowledge outside of whatever happens on Earth. Even then, our description for Nigh-Omniscience calls for knowledge of nearly everything with small gaps in their knowledge. A library with the knowledge of one universe besides the countlessly countless multiverse is not a small gap.
 
If you literally known everything happened on Earth and the vast information continuously pouring in, that is Nigh-Omniscient all about. You know almost everything at one place but limited to one thing or another. You don't need to known every universes in existence to be Omniscient, hell that mean every characters below Tier 1 cannot be Omniscient because they don't know their verse can reach at that level.

I'm talking about the main universes here, which is where Heisei Phase 2 take place for most the time, information have began since the Earth are born.
 
The Gifted and Extraordinary Genius look good.

However, for the super genius rating for the library. While it contains all recorded information of the Earth and thus would have information on all branches of science. The rating also states...

"Characters of such a scale tend to be super scientists capable of creating impossibly advanced physics-defying and reality-warping fantasy technology even with just household items, and outsmarting even other extremely intelligent individuals. Supergeniuses can often easily process calculations beyond modern humanity's combined capabilities on their own, and quickly come up with extremely complex plans."

Does the Earth they live on have advanced physics defying or reality warping technology? Because if the human race on that Earth is just like ours it would only have our combined capabilities which it needs to go beyond.
 
Technology like that does exist within the main Kamen Rider universe. Though, that is not to say the existence of each one is recorded within the Library
 
Technology like that does exist within the main Kamen Rider universe. Though, that is not to say the existence of each one is recorded within the Library
I guess possibly Supergeinus could work?
 
I think it may be safer to go with Extraordinary Genius actually. Giving it more thought, I don't doubt that the Gaia Library may contain information pertaining to these things, but it's more likely it just contains greater recorded information compared to that of our own Earth (based off the fact that other species, civilizations, and so on co-exist with most of real life history and have been recorded)
 
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