Kakashi vs Raiden(Metal Gear)

[Blueblur24]

Both are 7-C

Speed equalized

And BFR(kamui) is not allowed if need be.

 

[Blueblur24]

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[Muhammedmco]

This one is awesome dude. Nice job!

Anyways, Kakashi's weaponry like kunais and shurikens would be useless against Raiden's metallic body. In addition, I doubt that Kakashi's Lightning blade would do anything to Raiden when it pierces him since Raiden's 99Ôäà machine.

I would give that to Raiden via superior strength and the Murasama blade, which can outright guarntee the win for Raiden.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

i go with kakashi via him just tearing a piece of his bodz via kamui (only bfr is not allowed)

and kakashi cant really bfr with his kamui.

plus he will see everything raiden throws at him coming and his blade is capable of cutting with 7c power, so he can cur through raiden

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

Why can't Kakashi BFR with Kamui?

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

cuz he could only kamui smaller things , this is shown with deidara

 

[Burning_Full_Fingers]

But isn't that because he didn't have mastery of the technique? He used it on an explosion, but I don't remember how big it was. And he also used it on Naruto's shadow clone.

 

[Schnee_One]

Why can't Kakashi BFR with Kamui?

Is that his first move?

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Is that his first move?

depends on enemie and on which version really. he used it against deidara pretty fast, but he has precognition to keep up for long enough


he was spamming kamui during war era, but failed to use it against pein

 

[Heilergott]

I believe Kakashi will win this. he has a massive advantage here, since Raiden's single skill is is incredible Melee, which will ultimately fail hard against the Sharigans Ability to predict enemy movement, nevermind than Raiden will not survive Kamui or Raikiri. Does anyone know what a massive surge of lightning will do to raiden? He is a machine, shouldnt he get shortcircuited or have his brain fried by that?

 

[LordGinSama]

Nah Raiden has produced lightning himself before without anything negative happening to him. As for the Sharigan that'd definitely make it more difficult for Raiden but the precog offered by the Sharigan isn't that good so Raiden can likely deal with it. Meanwhile Raiden has his own durability negation ( on the molecular level ), better range in CQC, Zandatsu and Blade Mode at his disposal. Raiden has my vote here.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Nah Raiden has produced lightning himself before without anything negative happening to him. As for the Sharigan that'd definitely make it more difficult for Raiden but the precog offered by the Sharigan isn't that good so Raiden can likely deal with it. Meanwhile Raiden has his own durability negation ( on the molecular level ), better range in CQC, Zandatsu and Blade Mode at his disposal. Raiden has my vote here.

it is pretty good, it can see several second into the futture, which at this speeds is ridiculus

why would kakashi go in close range?

 

[Heilergott]

Jeah, I'd also say that if Speed was not Equalized. Raiden should not be able to suprise Kakashi and a fully awakened Sharingan is able to let someone fight a openent that is able to easily speedblitz said Sharingan user. .

 

[LordGinSama]

Show me a scan of it showing several seconds into the future. The Sharigan is muscle based not mind based or even sound based.


Because it's not in character for him to abuse range?

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Show me a scan of it showing several seconds into the future. The Sharigan is muscle based not mind based or even sound based.

Because it's not in character for him to abuse range?

zabuza fight, sasukes impeerfect veraion could copy lees despite lee speedblitying him

he does go for long range, he did so with pein and deidara, and during the fourth war, where he was giving kamui as it was christmas

 

[Muhammedmco]

It's like this:

Kakashi activates his Sharingan to predict Raiden's moves. Raiden activates Zandatsu and slices Kakashi to pieces.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

It's like this:
Kakashi activates his Sharingan to predict Raiden's moves. Raiden activates Zandatsu and slices Kakashi to pieces.

and kakashi sees it coming and substitutes, or it turns out it was just a clone

 

[Muhammedmco]

But lightning actually won't affect Raiden. He's 99% machine and had taken far more worse than Kakashi.

Two Words:

Armstrong > Obito

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

But lightning actually won't affect Raiden. He's 99% machine and had taken far more worse than Kakashi.
Two Words:

Armstrong > Obito

kamui>streinght

 

[Heilergott]

Well, in the first Naruto vs Sasuke fight at the valley of the end it's clearly shown that it can see quite far into the future, movementwise at least. The Sharingan uses flow of Chakra and many more tells, including body language and posture to determine your physical actions.

 

[Muhammedmco]

But i think Raiden is more stronger physically since this is Ripper Mode Raiden we're talking about here people. Kakashi is merely a flick in front of the greatly superpowerful Raiden.

Honestly i think Raiden one-shots.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

But i think Raiden is more stronger physically since this is Ripper Mode Raiden we're talking about here people. Kakashi is merely a flick in front of the greatly superpowerful Raiden.
Honestly i think Raiden one-shots.

and kakashi oneshots with kamui, its more about who will use it first and get a hit in with it

 

[LordGinSama]

Well, in the first Naruto vs Sasuke fight at the valley of the end it's clearly shown that it can see quite far into the future, movementwise at least. The Sharingan uses flow of Chakra and many more tells, including body language and posture to determine your physical actions.

Gotcha. If that's how it works then it isn't doing much. Raiden doesn't have anything remotely similar to Chakra. Nor does he have an energy to equalize it to. Also when has the Sharigan ever been able to see "quite a bit into the future"?

 

[Muhammedmco]

and kakashi oneshots with kamui, its more about who will use it first and get a hit in with it

It would. Except for the fact that the Kamui's BFR is restricted in this thread.

 

[Heilergott]

Well, Kakashi's worst is nearly better than Raiden's best with Striking Strengh. Lifting Strengh does not really matter.

@Knight Raiden still has body language and posture as a very nice tell. And it does definitely work on machanical beings, seing as it worked on the Asura Path. Also, I do not mean the literal future. I mean foresight of enemy physical action through sharingan prediction.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

It would. Except for the fact that the Kamui's BFR is restricted in this thread.

but he can use it to kill, not to bfr, like he did to deidara

 

[Heilergott]

Also, shouldn't Kakashi be able to block Raiden's sword? That thing works by vibrating at extreme frequencies, Lightning Chakra is the same. That is how Raiton works. He should be able to block the blade with a Lightning Style charged Kunai.

 

[Blueblur24]

Sorry I haven't been active for awhile but kamui is only restricted if it makes the match one sided.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Sorry I haven't been active for awhile but kamui is only restricted if it makes the match one sided.

not really, he doesent use it on the fly

 

[Blueblur24]

not really, he doesent use it on the fly

Ok then so it is not restricted in this fight if that is the case.

 

[Blueblur24]

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[Blueblur24]

bunp bump

 

[Mirror_Magic]

this match up is such a headache since the starts are pretty close

 

[M3X_2.0]

you are not allowed to bump a thread from 2 years ago

 

[Twellas]

especially when Raiden got aa load of new stats and isn't even 7-C anymore

 

[M3X_2.0]

Kakashi will not be 7-C anymore so this match didn't age well lol