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Screaming in pain doesn’t necessarily invalidate him tanking the attacks though.If he tanked it he wouldn't be screaming out in pain.
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Screaming in pain doesn’t necessarily invalidate him tanking the attacks though.If he tanked it he wouldn't be screaming out in pain.
What do you mean?
it could just be Kaido's organs scale directly towards his own external durability, allowing him to resist the internal damage done by Luffy's attack
That's not what Killer is doing. Please watch this. It should help you understand better.
Because he regenerated.In any cases, the organs are still technically intact after the damage was done so
You would have to prove that his organs ~ his external durability.Don’t think we can use internal organs durability of a human to that of a dragon when he is in that form.
He still survive the attack and even tank it since his organs seems to being not being ripped to shreds entirely as well as other things.But it literally doesn't for the reasons I stated. Kaido's organs not comparable to his external durability at all. If that were the case, that would make Luffy's entire training in Udon and Killer's statement that I provided completely useless.
If he was damaged internally then yes, it would mean Kaidou in fact didn't tank the attack. Tanking means to shrug off an attack with no damage whatsoever, you cannot tank durability negation with sheer durability.Screaming in pain doesn’t necessarily invalidate him tanking the attacks though.
Tbf you can argue it is technically still regen and durability in this case.Because he regenerated.
You would have to prove that his organs ~ his external durability.
It's called regeneration. It's also called Occams's Razer, Kaidou has regeneration. His durability contextually doesn't cover internal damage as per Luffy's Ryou training, as is shown being affected by said durability negation.He still survive the attack and even tank it since his organs seems to being not being ripped to shreds entirely as well as other things.
If I not mistaken, targeting internal organs is technically not complete full on durability negation as it only ignores durability to a extent.If he was damaged internally then yes, it would mean Kaidou in fact didn't tank the attack. Tanking means to shrug off an attack with no damage whatsoever, you cannot tank durability negation with sheer durability.
Syther Sonic is outright internal durability negation, same thing with Ryou. The latter is heavily context dependant as Luffy only trained for Ryou to be able to ignore Kaidou's durability by targeting his innards.
There is 0 valid argument to Kaido's innards being comparable in durability to his outside durability. Everything you all have said is laughably far from what the manga shows.Tbf you can argue it is technically still regen and durability in this case.
Bypassing the outside skin and effecting internal organs is durability negation.If I not mistaken, targeting internal organs is technically not complete full on durability negation as it only ignores durability to a extent.
I know.Bypassing the outside skin and effecting internal organs is durability negation.
Tbf, you did show me the anime scene. Is there a scene similar to that in the manga too?There is 0 valid argument to Kaido's innards being comparable in durability to his outside durability. Everything you all have said is laughably far from what the manga shows.
Several instances in the literal OP.Tbf, you did show me the anime scene. Is there a scene similar to that in the manga too?
From Luffy which you did.Several instances in the literal OP.
Which is the purpose of the OP. Luffy's Ryou is a blatant Mid feat.From Luffy which you did.
Dude. I sent you the manga right before.Is there a scene similar to that in the manga too?
Dude. I sent you the manga right before.
These are the same thing.
Only to an extent. The internal body doesn't have 0 durability.Bypassing the outside skin and effecting internal organs is durability negation.
If Kaido's organs weren't comparably tough they would have turned to literal mist the second they were hit by any dura neg from a character as strong as Killer, the scabbards or LuffyBut it literally doesn't for the reasons I stated. Kaido's organs not comparable to his external durability at all. If that were the case, that would make Luffy's entire training in Udon and Killer's statement that I provided completely useless.
That should've been obvious but in a vs thread fellas were dying on the hill that Kaido's innards weren't as strong as his outside body, even though there's several feats proving they are.Or maybe his brain wasn't destroyed at all and it's just as durable as his skin? C'mon.
Nobody said his brain was destroyed? Maybe read the OP.Or maybe his brain wasn't destroyed at all and it's just as durable as his skin? C'mon.
If his brain wasn’t actually damaged we can’t assume the regen. It’s possible Kaido’s internal organs are simply very durableA fist being directly shoved into your brain and having several explosions happen inside your skull would be ground for Mid.
Both are durability negation, damage would logically be done.If his brain wasn’t actually damaged we can’t assume the regen.
This goes against Ryou and Killer's Syther Sonic both being affective on Kaido.It’s possible Kaido’s internal organs are simply very durable
Let's just go with the "Possibly" rating as i laid out in this post here.I can see were Damage is coming from, the scans within themselves don't "inherently" prove that Kaido regenerated from massive brain damage done by Luffy's Ryou, it could just be Kaido's organs scale directly towards his own external durability, allowing him to resist the internal damage done by Luffy's attack.
But on the same, equal token Kaido could've regenerated from the attack, this is specifically compounded on by the fact Kaido's a Zoan, beings specifically stated to have better regeneration capabilities comparative to other Devil Fruit users.
Given this, alongside the others scans posted within the OP and just the general level of knowledge we have on the feat above i believe a "Possibly" rating is in order.
> "Should be used to list a statistic for a character with some basis, but inconclusive due to the justification being vague or non-definitive. The probability of the justification in question for being reliable should be notable, but mild. This term should be used sparingly."
This is exactly what Kaido's Mid-Level regeneration would fall under since while it does have evidence for it being true, there's also a lot of vagueness behind the feat given its never really explained upon in the Manga and such other equal interpretations can come through, resulting in Kaido not needing his regeneration.
I believe this is the most correct rating and one that'll hopefully create a compromise between both sides.