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Screaming in pain doesn’t necessarily invalidate him tanking the attacks though.
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Kaidou Regeneration upgrade
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Dragon organs and stuff… Don’t think we can use internal organs durability of a human to that of a dragon when he is in that form.
In any cases, the organs are still technically intact after the damage was done so
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Because he regenerated.
You would have to prove that his organs ~ his external durability.
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He still survive the attack and even tank it since his organs seems to being not being ripped to shreds entirely as well as other things.
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If he was damaged internally then yes, it would mean Kaidou in fact didn't tank the attack. Tanking means to shrug off an attack with no damage whatsoever, you cannot tank durability negation with sheer durability.
Syther Sonic is outright internal durability negation, same thing with Ryou. The latter is heavily context dependant as Luffy only trained for Ryou to be able to ignore Kaidou's durability by targeting his innards.
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Tbf you can argue it is technically still regen and durability in this case.
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It's called regeneration. It's also called Occams's Razer, Kaidou has regeneration. His durability contextually doesn't cover internal damage as per Luffy's Ryou training, as is shown being affected by said durability negation.
It's literally in your face.
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If I not mistaken, targeting internal organs is technically not complete full on durability negation as it only ignores durability to a extent.
I will double check as there are multiple ways to ignore durability after all.
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There is 0 valid argument to Kaido's innards being comparable in durability to his outside durability. Everything you all have said is laughably far from what the manga shows.
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Bypassing the outside skin and effecting internal organs is durability negation.
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Tbf, you did show me the anime scene. Is there a scene similar to that in the manga too?
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At worst I'd agree with a "Likely.", as possibly outright ignores Luffy's whole point of training for Ryou and Killer's Sycther Sonic.
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Several instances in the literal OP.
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From Luffy which you did.
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Which is the purpose of the OP. Luffy's Ryou is a blatant Mid feat.
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Dude. I sent you the manga right before.
These are the same thing.
Only issue is we weren’t shown the internal damage from the manga scene while in the anime scene, we were showed that he still managed to survive.
Also I still technically agree with @Deceived in that regard since it doesn’t invalidate every argument being made by him anyway.
Beside the fact he did live after that attack is something to note given the chapter in question although I think @KingTempest should been aware of this thread if he hasn’t been informed already.
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Only to an extent. The internal body doesn't have 0 durability.
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If Kaido's organs weren't comparably tough they would have turned to literal mist the second they were hit by any dura neg from a character as strong as Killer, the scabbards or Luffy
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If it's accepted that Luffy deleted part of his brain, then it's fine
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Bump.
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That should've been obvious but in a vs thread fellas were dying on the hill that Kaido's innards weren't as strong as his outside body, even though there's several feats proving they are.
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Nobody said his brain was destroyed? Maybe read the OP.
Damaging the brain on a significant level is still Mid.
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A fist being directly shoved into your brain and having several explosions happen inside your skull would be ground for Mid.
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If his brain wasn’t actually damaged we can’t assume the regen. It’s possible Kaido’s internal organs are simply very durable
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Both are durability negation, damage would logically be done.
This goes against Ryou and Killer's Syther Sonic both being affective on Kaido.
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Yeah no, even if we were to say that Ryou ignores the bones completely (which I highly doubt), there are still several layers underneath the skull such as the dura mater that protects the brain and gets hit instead of it.
Not to mention that this upgrade is based entirely on the assumption of how much damage his brain is supposedly receiving, when there is no possible way to know that.
Not to mention that this upgrade is based entirely on the assumption of how much damage his brain is supposedly receiving, when there is no possible way to know that.
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Let's just go with the "Possibly" rating as i laid out in this post here.
There's no more reason to extend this thread further then it already has.
