Kai the Collector vs Glynda Goodwitch

[GyroNutz]

Idk enough about RWBY to make a comment on the thread, but I just thought it'd be cool.

Kai's AP is >>> 52 tons, Glynda's AP is > 18.8 tons.

Speed is equal

Who wins and why?

Kai the Collector: 2

Glynda Goodwitch: 4

Inconclusive:

 

[Jasonsith]

Jade Slayer seems to have quite a sizeable AP advantage despite not being an AP stomp.

Jade Slayer has better stamina and power absorption to enhance himself and weaken the teacher at the same time as the battle goes on.

Teacher could hope amplifying herself for one great hit to defeat the spirit ox, but more times than not the spirit ox wins by AP advantage, stamina and power absorption.

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Glynda can just TK the chains away, she can ragdoll if she feels like it

 

[GyroNutz]

Kai's absorption is less of a gradual thing throughout the battle and more of an insta-win technique, like here. Though he has to be in somewhat close range to do it.

 

[GyroNutz]

Glynda can just TK the chains away, she can ragdoll if she feels like it

She can't ragdoll someone with superior lifting strength though

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

She can't ragdoll someone with superior lifting strength though

I'm pretty sure that wasn't accepted.

Weekly got debunked in that Kenshi vs Glynda thread when he said that Kenshi couldn't resist her TK because of his inferior lifting strength. I suggest you read the thread here, especially what Antoniofer said

And the chi absorption gets taken care of with telekinesis

 

[GyroNutz]

Alright, I suppose Kai being thrown about with TK is fair enough, but he'd anchor himself to the ground with his jade swords like he did numerous times vs Po (when he was getting flung around).

How does tk prevent chi absorption?

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

You told me that he needs to get close to do it, so Glynda slaps him away when he does that

Also judging by the video why doesn't he have TK?

 

[GyroNutz]

Oh right, fair enough.

Basically, in the video, Monkey and Viper were being grabbed by two of Kai's jade warriors (his summons). He can recall his summons at any time, which dragged Monkey and Viper along with them. I don't think that'd count as TK.

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

I didn't see that, thanks for clarifying.

Does he do that as his first move? He needs to do that since telekinesis is going to be a pain in the ass.

 

[GyroNutz]

His leads are either to throw his jade sword(s) or to use his summons. Most of his summons are High 8-C, but he does have an 8-B summon.

 

[Paul_Frank]

Wait what hasn't it always been a thing that you can't tk someone with higher lifting strength

 

[GyroNutz]

TK is a lifting strength attack most of the time, so you definitely can't restrain someone who has higher lifting strength with TK. You can move them apparently, but not if they have an ability like Flight. Or, in this case, Kai can anchor himself with his swords (though it will still be annoying). Correct me if I'm wrong

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

She can just slap his arms away from his weapons if she sees him trying to hold on with his chained swords then ragdoll.

 

[GyroNutz]

How is she gonna disarm him though? He's stronger than her.

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Chu mean? What you said is pretty vague

 

[GyroNutz]

I'm... guessing that 'slap his arms away from his weapons' means that she'll disarm him, right?

She can't disarm him though, at least not without an uphill struggle.

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Again, having higher lifting strength doesn't mean you resist TK

Kai anchoring himself doesn't really help from getting ragdolled

 

[GyroNutz]

Being lifted by TK =/= being disarmed by TK.

Ragdolling someone with TK only works if they don't have something to push away from + the strength to do so. Characters with flight can do this as they can push against the force of the TK by flying against it, which is when it will be affected by lifting strength. Same goes for Kai anchoring himself.

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

I still think Kai gets slapped away and zoned to oblivion.

 

[GyroNutz]

Quick question

Does Glynda use tk to ragdoll in-character?

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Yeah she does

She used it against 2 Grimm and she wasn't looking at them and it's pretty much her main ability, she also uses energy attacks which have pretty good range.

 

[Schnee_One]

Glynda may have better AP in a bit

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

And that too

But unfortunately she doesn't rn so I'm going to vote Glynda via telekinesis, forcefields and zoning him out with telekinesis and energy attacks.

Also she should have Weapon Creation

 

[Schnee_One]

Glynda FRA

 

[Kredory]

Kenshi's waifu FRA

 

[Dargoo_Faust]

Glynda FRA.

 

[Jasonsith]

Being lifted by TK =/= being disarmed by TK.

Ragdolling someone with TK only works if they don't have something to push away from + the strength to do so. Characters with flight can do this as they can push against the force of the TK by flying against it, which is when it will be affected by lifting strength. Same goes for Kai anchoring himself.

Kai having better lifting strength means he will only move in slow motion. And a sizeable lifting strength advantage means he will not be slowed by much. He has his own summons to keep the witch busy, and when he is up close he can "your soul is mine".

Keeping my vote to Kai.

 

[GyroNutz]

Watch the necro guys...

 

[Schnee_One]

Why would he only move in slow motion.....?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Glyn fra

 

[Schnee_One]

Gonna have to ask Dargoo but isn't Kenshi vs Glynda a stomp now?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Yes, it was removed a while ago because of it

 

[Schnee_One]

Oh I see-

Wait why the SW fight?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Because SW's AP and dura were upgraded from 8-A to High 7-A

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

SW?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Scarlet Witch

also we're derailing

 

[Schnee_One]

I'm actually going to switch my vote to Kai now that the AP changed FRA

 

[WeeklyBattles]

What about the ap has changed?

 

[GyroNutz]

Updated the OP