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Kaguya Otsutsuki vs. Shadow Mewtwo
- Thread starter SuperKamiNappa
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Speed Equalized
No prior knowledge
who wins and why?
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You remove the BFR you're actually nerfing Kaguya pretty hard, considering this is one of her main methods of battle. This can't be called a notable win/loss.
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^undone then.
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Can Kaguya resist Mind Manipulation? I mean, what is stopping Mewtwo from wiping her mind. Kaguya is pretty dumb while fighting (you see, black zetsu was guiding her all the time) so... I bet Mewtwo can simply control her with his powers. Kaguya could BFR him if given the opportunity, though.
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Both have pretty potent teleporting, but I believe Mewtwo's mind manipulation, large AOE without charging, and Kaguya's low durability will give the clone the win.
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Kaguya can read the minds of others and control them as well as seen in a recent episode, she over took Hamura...
That could be a counter to Mewtwo's Mind Manipulation.
That could be a counter to Mewtwo's Mind Manipulation.
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Looks like Shadow should be able to Planet Bust. And the attack seems a hell of a lot quicker than what Kaguya can bust at.Zerzavyx98 said:
Mewtwo is also a much better tactician and thousands of times smarter than Kaguya. Alakazam's IQ is supposed to be 5,000, with Mewtwo trumpimg him by several leagues.
Regular Mewtwo was able to mind control people and Shadow should be many times stronger, not to mention Regular conjured a Hurricane to wipe out all Sentient life on the planet with just Telekinesis.
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How much energy can Mewtwo duke out before he tires out? Kaguya had enough to fight her two sons for 10 months straight.
Mind controlling, Kaguya has that countered w/ her mind control as well. Its shown that she held back people from doing ANYTHING to her and then erased their memory of them knowing of her first appearance. Mewtwo may be smarter but is his moveset just as versatile? Kaguya has her bone ash attack which will end Mewtwo in one hit, she also has telekinesis, dimension switching and reality warping.
Kaguya can use the senju tree to wipe out every living thing on a planet + Expansive Truth Seeking Orb only takes a few seconds to expand.
Also, she can tank her own moves, can Mewtwo do the same?
Mind controlling, Kaguya has that countered w/ her mind control as well. Its shown that she held back people from doing ANYTHING to her and then erased their memory of them knowing of her first appearance. Mewtwo may be smarter but is his moveset just as versatile? Kaguya has her bone ash attack which will end Mewtwo in one hit, she also has telekinesis, dimension switching and reality warping.
Kaguya can use the senju tree to wipe out every living thing on a planet + Expansive Truth Seeking Orb only takes a few seconds to expand.
Also, she can tank her own moves, can Mewtwo do the same?
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ESTB takes longer than a few seconds or else she would have used it, while SM's attack does literally take seconds.Zerzavyx98 said:
Mewtwo takes this with attacks like Reflect, Teleport, and Dark Nova.
Mewtwo can reflect any attack back with Reflect, Teleport into the Atmosphere, and destroy the planet with Dark Nova.
Mewtwo's brain works thousands of times faster and more effective than hers. Even if he can't control her with his mind, he'll be able to anticipate and counter anything she throws at him, countering with Teleport and Reflect, healing damage via Recover, changing Kaguya with Mind's Eye, or planet-busting with Dark Nova.
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ESTB expands quickly though O-o
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Mewtwo almost stomps due to superior AP/Dura and far superior hax due to mind manipulation. They're low-level reality warping cancels out.
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How does Mewtwo's mind manipulation compare to Kaguya's? Kaguya's mind manipulation would erase memories from peoples head and have people fight for his w/o resistance until killed.
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Is that from filler, or?
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Shown to be in Otsutsuki arsenal, and also in recent Naruto episodes which cover Kaguya's backstory.
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In other words, filler and unusable feats.Zerzavyx98 said:
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I believe mewtwo takes this thanks to his mind manipulation and higher AP. Not to mention he can reflect kaguya's attacks.
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Does anyone else notice the amount of people that defeated kaguya?
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That's what happens when you're in a popular show, people love to take shots at you.Superkryptonian said:
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That's what happens when you're in a popular show, people love to take shots at you.
The whole people taking shots at you doesn't surprise me, what surprises me is the fact that she has no victories and over 6 losses.
The whole people taking shots at you doesn't surprise me, what surprises me is the fact that she has no victories and over 6 losses.
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The whole people taking shots at you doesn't surprise me, what surprises me is the fact that she has no victories and over 6 losses.Superkryptonian said:
When I said 'take shots at' I was implying that people purposefully make vs threads where the odds are against popular characters but technically 'fair' because of similar tiering.
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It's not necessarily even a thing people do on purpose, they just would tend not to be interested in creating a thread if a popular character would have the advantage because its easy to find such a thing 'boring and obvious'.
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Well it's kind of nonsensical, especially if that popular character has no hax and is put up against someone with a lot of hax.
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Mewtwo has insane physical force. He can stretch his limbs like Majin Buu or Luffy, and in physics, that has the most ridiculous force, since hes literally creating mass and adding it to his momentum. Thats "Taijutsu" covered.
Mewtwo was also able to spam countless Dark Novas while showing no signs of fatigue.
Then again, it really depends on how much planets SM absorbed. Aborbing 90% of Earth was enough to planet bust. If he gets his hands on all of Kaguya's Dimensions tho...damn.
Kaguya wouldn't even get the first shot. Mewtwo uses Psychic and pure energy, while Kaguya attacks those only if they have Chakra. Mewtwo is completely sadistic, always wanting more power and testing his power. He'd lock her in the Dark Collosuem rift and beat the hell out of her before she warps out.
Mewtwo was also able to spam countless Dark Novas while showing no signs of fatigue.
Then again, it really depends on how much planets SM absorbed. Aborbing 90% of Earth was enough to planet bust. If he gets his hands on all of Kaguya's Dimensions tho...damn.
Kaguya wouldn't even get the first shot. Mewtwo uses Psychic and pure energy, while Kaguya attacks those only if they have Chakra. Mewtwo is completely sadistic, always wanting more power and testing his power. He'd lock her in the Dark Collosuem rift and beat the hell out of her before she warps out.
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