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Kagura Bachi General Discussion Thread

Emirp sumitpo said:
Are measurements possible or do the angles make it impossible
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We already have them measured from my sojo calc we just literally never see her create or launch them, we only see them when they're already in the air so that's why I said GPE but otherwise and I'd have to reread this to be sure but I believe she is moving the platform out towards the sea so if we get a distance we can get the KE of moving them all but otherwise not much we can do there.
Emirp sumitpo said:
Ig that's viable. Because like, he's not one shotting those peeps. They'd just be At most 8-B as well
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Okay sounds good so Chihiro is downscaling 20.5 tons for physicals while those who downscale him downscale to baseline 8-B at 11 tons for their at most
 
Btw the Gansui calc on the verse page should be swapped over to Jasonsith's version since his accounts for the center of gravity of the shape for KE
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Kagurabachi - Ch 013 Gansui Feat

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This brings the feat more in line with the rest of the verse
 
So like Shiba is definitely at least 36~40 Years old...how should I list his age...

Also anyone got any good Shiba, hakuri, and Hiyuki quotes for profiles
 
actually we need to gather all the new scans for the energy system so that we can we actually have the fundamentals of the verse down for profiles to even begin with. We only have scans up to the sojo arc for the energy system so we need to expand a lot on it from all that we got in the rakuzachi
 
Dalesean027 said:
actually we need to gather all the new scans for the energy system so that we can we actually have the fundamentals of the verse down for profiles to even begin with. We only have scans up to the sojo arc for the energy system so we need to expand a lot on it from all that we got in the rakuzachi
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Not sure if you have these already so here’s a gallery about Spirit Energy being used for physicals
Or Hakuri being able to invest more of his energy into Isou
 
Dalesean027 said:
Thanks what we really need though is input from everyone on where we should scale the sazanami goons and Shiba. All of their feats in isolation are only 9-A as per my calcs but we know Shiba fights Tenri with the Datenseki amp but we never really get to see if Tenri or Shiba landed a blow on each other to scale them to each other.
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We do
 
Jackof_noTrades068 said:
Not sure if you have these already so here’s a gallery about Spirit Energy being used for physicals
Or Hakuri being able to invest more of his energy into Isou
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This is a good start but we'll need more than just the stuff for physicals since they expanded on everything we want it all.

Shey said:
We do
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Honestly forgot this but it is the one instance he does take a hit. Thanks now we can directly connect shiba to tenri

Here's the rest we got as well

Aside from Basic Movement Sorcery and barriers people only have one type of unique Sorcery
 
Dalesean027 said:
Thing with that though like I said currently Chihiro is "at most 8-B" albeit about 20ish Tons and it does seems looking through all the statements again the stones amps is just repeatedly said to be on par with an enchanted blade so I think we either have Chihiro be outright 8-B by this point or we would outright just have everyone who is not Sojo as at most 8-B which would be funny
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I see. Didn't know about the values they scale.
 
Dalesean027 said:
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Kagurabachi competing with SD to see which has best volume covers among new gen
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Confirmation once more that Chihiro is 18 years, we also officially see the layers of his clothes as well as learn his birthday is August 11th
 
Dalesean027 said:
Biggest Rakuzachi feat was Hiyuki's casual 9 ton feat which would be vaguely less than a 1.22x different from 11 tons for 8-B but since she is already comprable as either an equal if not stronger than Chihiro she'd be 8-B anyways
Not really no, he never had any statements of being stronger than before. He's just kinda right away comprable to Hiyuki who herself would be 8-B even via her own feat

Thing is though we currently have Chihiro as at most 8-B for surviving Sojo's full output mei (20.5 tons) even though off calculated feats alone Chihiro's surviving mei would be > 20.5 tons since its the most powerful attack cloud gouger has and the 20.5 comes from just the ice with yui. Hiyuki upscaling her own feat woulr be baseline 8-B at 11 tons and we'd be listing her as outright 8-B for being > Chihiro so we're really just needed to determine if Chihiro is staying at most 8-B or if he'll be just outright 8-B
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Bit of a late reply on this point.

But doesn't Chihiro's statements during his fight with Hiyuki and hiyuki's statements during the fight with kyora suggest he's not on that level?

The fact that he can't fully absorb a Hiyuki punch despite being able to absorb mei and Hiyuki pointing out that Chihiro had no way to actually deal with Magatsumi's Dragonfly. To which he revealed he could... by using the partial flamebone attack he stored.
 
PandaCooler said:
But doesn't Chihiro's statements during his fight with Hiyuki and hiyuki's statements during the fight with kyora suggest he's not on that level?
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Not really no??? And mathematically he's like 9.5 tons above baseline 8-B which is 11 tons, My point was that even of Hiyuki wasn't scaled to Chihiro we'd have her upscaled to baseline 8-B anyways and not with an "at most" rating, with that fact I questioned if we should keep the "at most" when at the bare minimum they are well enough above baseline that being by almost 2x. So it was simply decided to keep the at most for now until we know he is stated stronger than before
 
Noting down for if or when we get a Hirohiko profile that he can react to the Base Nishiki Amp, not necessarily the "up to 3 times amp" tho but shouldn't a distinction be made for scaling purposes

Like this
MHS, higher with Nishiki (High density Spirit energy blah blah) , up to Atleast MHS+ with Nishiki (Can cloak himself with 3 times more High Density Spirit energy than normal)
 
We already have it listed fine on the profile he'd just be at least MHS
 
Idk if this has been noted down already but Chihiro should get Type 2 Immortality, we see possessing an Enchanted Blade Stone Dantenseki Doohickey gives it to the Hishaku Randoms.
And we get an extreme case of this Type 2 Immortality of the Enchanted Blade with Kyoura wielding the Shinuchi
 
Shey said:
Idk if this has been noted down already but Chihiro should get Type 2 Immortality, we see possessing an Enchanted Blade Stone Dantenseki Doohickey gives it to the Hishaku Randoms.
And we get an extreme case of this Type 2 Immortality of the Enchanted Blade with Kyoura wielding the Shinuchi
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This im not so sure about as Chihiro has never once gotten healed via regen from his sword, it really only seems like its a one time thing for the first instance of someone using a blade to me because obviously the danteski guys can be killed after the amp and initial regen and even kyora was st8ll actively dying
 
Dalesean027 said:
This im not so sure about as Chihiro has never once gotten healed via regen from his sword, it really only seems like its a one time thing for the first instance of someone using a blade to me because obviously the danteski guys can be killed after the amp and initial regen and even kyora was st8ll actively dying
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Regen isn't a factor

"Resilient Immortality: Characters with this degree of immortality can indefinitely survive injuries that would otherwise be lethal to a normal person, without needing to heal. This type of immortality can have different levels of effectiveness and can be bypassed, for example, by causing extremely severe wounds or the complete destruction of the body or specific parts of it, such as the head, etc."

It allows them to remain active indefinitely despite lethal injuries while wielding these artifacts and weapons.
And we see Kyoura immediately drop dead once he chooses to stop wielding the Shinuchi

So it'll be Immortality Type 2; Resilient Immortality (Wielding an Enchanted Blade or Datenseki allows the user to act indefinitely in spite of lethal injuries to a certain degree)
 
Shey said:
Regen isn't a factor

"Resilient Immortality: Characters with this degree of immortality can indefinitely survive injuries that would otherwise be lethal to a normal person, without needing to heal. This type of immortality can have different levels of effectiveness and can be bypassed, for example, by causing extremely severe wounds or the complete destruction of the body or specific parts of it, such as the head, etc."

It allows them to remain active indefinitely despite lethal injuries while wielding these artifacts and weapons.
And we see Kyoura immediately drop dead once he chooses to stop wielding the Shinuchi

So it'll be Immortality Type 2; Resilient Immortality (Wielding an Enchanted Blade or Datenseki allows the user to act indefinitely in spite of lethal injuries to a certain degree)
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Oop that's my bad then Idk why I thought that one was immortality via regen but otherwise I could see this being a thing then
 
Sooo who's going to make new profiles and make a crt for new stuff for the profiles we have?
 
Spinoirr said:
Didn't you say you'd work on making some profiles and update the profiles we got?
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Yeah I was doing the sorcery blog but got tied up doing a lot of other work, could knock it out this weekend but otherwise as far as profiles I never made any promises because its a lot of guys who need them and with good quality too and that's way too much for one person which I expressed before but seems no one is interested in helping out there so it'd just be on hold until because even now for several verses I'm doing a major chunk of the calcs for them to establish them which is a lot

Like 20 calcs deep into Final Fantasy stuff, About 10~15 deep into marvel rivals, and I been helping some other verses too.

Until bachi goons lock in on wiki I fear I'm knocking out verses where I know I'm interested and need the help more since they are actually active and willing to work
 
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We should probably give it time anyways. This new arc is setting up a lot of characters and things aren’t done just yet. Especially the owl stuff.
 
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