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>vague
It's not vague?
It happened twice no less, and it was reiterated too.
Its actually cut and dry.
It's not vague?
It happened twice no less, and it was reiterated too.
Its actually cut and dry.
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Just an honest question. (DBS - Goku and Jiren)
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Problem with every non-organized DBS upgrade:
- too many people jumping the gun
- too many people overhyping
- Too many people downplaying.
- too many people jumping the gun
- too many people overhyping
- Too many people downplaying.
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The statement is extremely cut and dry. However, I actually agree that we should wait. We have a solid High 3-A or Low 2-C feat. We just need to wait before we add it and discuss scaling.
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Why?
I can understand dealing with scaling then, but a feat is a feat.
Why does Jiren even have a profile then?
Ninja'd, but I still feel adding High 3-A on jiren is At least needed to keep it up to date.
I can understand dealing with scaling then, but a feat is a feat.
Why does Jiren even have a profile then?
Ninja'd, but I still feel adding High 3-A on jiren is At least needed to keep it up to date.
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Agreeing too.
Also whether this is going through or not some staff hasn't seen this yet. Perhaps it's better to close this, make a new thread about this staff only so its better organized and managed?
Also whether this is going through or not some staff hasn't seen this yet. Perhaps it's better to close this, make a new thread about this staff only so its better organized and managed?
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I'm not trying to be annoying... But why wouldn't it count ? Wouldn't destroying pockets dimension with time and space be considered low 2-C ( ... One of the reasons Franklin and other low 2-Csare low 2-C ) . I agree with the scaling though... Just want to clarify this.
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High 3-A: Goku and Jiren shaking the whole World of Void with their punches
Low 2-C: Grand Priest saying Jiren is the most powerful enemy Goku has ever faced (Scaling from all forms of Zamasu).
Both would upgrade all the top-tiers.
Low 2-C: Grand Priest saying Jiren is the most powerful enemy Goku has ever faced (Scaling from all forms of Zamasu).
Both would upgrade all the top-tiers.
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People.....patience is a virtue....
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They could, I mean 3-A dbz? Who could've guessed.
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Low 2-c wouldn't be from that, itd be from zamasu.
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Please continue to read everything above...DodoNova2 said:
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... Low 2-C is scaling from Jiren being implied to be stronger then Infinite Zamasu.
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I can agree on waiting on scaling but I feel at least Jiren should get the rating of High 3-A slapped on there now.
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Matt was making a hypothetical statement, he's wasn't confusing him with shin.
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He was giving examples if the priest said that itd have Goku scale off zamasu, their punches was another example. Neither happened yet, He was just giving examples of what better feats could happen.
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I thought the Void had neither space or time?
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That might not be true, considering Goku and jiren may actually be stronger than gods, but it does lend credence coupled with the rosat bust, time-space effecting isnt anything new.
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Low 2C seems good to me
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That's wrong Therefir, he just showed that power again last night, took two years but still happened.
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Actually i'll ask, why would Beerus and Champa be able to effect space time when destroying a universe just because Goku and Jiren can? Beerus wasnt doing this when he was fighting with Goku or Champa and iirc simply being more powerful doesnt mean space-time effects can scale to you.Dark649 said:
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Because Jiren and Goku do it with raw power. Power wise gods are comparable.
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If that's true then why hasn't Beerus done the same thing previously? His fight with Goku and Champa dipicted him more as effecting the physical contents of the universes, not its space-time. Even Whis has only shown to effect space-time (or just time) as an ability not with brute power.
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And?
Goku sure as hell dudnt gain some time abilities all of a sudden so whis isn't a good comparison. And because Beerus hasn't done So? Goku never destroyed a planet in z or cell either, they're still planet tier though. Powerscaling dude.
Goku sure as hell dudnt gain some time abilities all of a sudden so whis isn't a good comparison. And because Beerus hasn't done So? Goku never destroyed a planet in z or cell either, they're still planet tier though. Powerscaling dude.
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Im aware of him holding back alot but even if casual, Beerus still should have been able to effect space-time on some level if he really could however. Characters much much inferior to him have done the same thing and Vegeta did it too, still very weaker than Beerus. Holding back power has never meant not effecting a level of space-time with your power iirc.
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